Paul, My analogy is not (completly) false! The problem is that I'm trying to be brief all the time and I miss accuracy (bad memory, poor maths, slow brain, devil's interference, etc...) . My analogy with the 2 trains still can be used to show my point. To make things simple, we won't bother with air (or aether) resistance. First if you stand still on a train without motion and throw a ball (or laser beam) at 90 degrees (facing south) to a moving train in front of you going westward, your ball (or laser beam) will bounce back (reflect) with an angle in the west direction to your right. And if you stand still (facing south) on a moving train (same speed as in previous exemple) going eastwardly and throw (at 90 degrees) a ball (laser beam) at an train standing still in front of you, the ball (beam) will bounce back (reflect) eastwardly, but since you are moving east for a period of time, you will conver some distance before the ball comes back to your train and my prediction is that the ball (beam) will bounce back to your right at exactly the same spot than in the previous example. Do you get the point? Marc V. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Deema Sent: 28 juillet 2007 11:17 To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moving Earth Deception Marc V Thanks for saving me the trouble of having to think about your analogy -- these days I don't need any more distractions than necessary. Hope you're caught up on your sleep! Paul D Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more.