Sounds complicated to me. And rather difficult to accept.. You are saying the sun is powerful enough to hold all the solar system planets (except earth) by gravity to itself, as orbiting planets, and yet then the earth is tied rigidly to what? which is sufficiently powerful enough to hold the sun and all these satellite planets doing a 24 hour orbit around it, without even showing a wobble. Do all these planets keep the same distance from the sun as it traverses this 24 hour daily 190 million mile diameter path around the earth? If so then they all would be seen to do 190million mile 24 hour circles of their own virtually around nothing.. Philip.. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Bennett To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:45 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moving Earth Deception Copernica is a land of make-believe and fairy tales, where the citizens are all dizzy from simultaneously spinning around the Poles, the Sun, the galactic center, the local cluster center, etc. Copernica is covered with perpetual darkness, as the dwellers therein ' love the darkness more than the Light.' Copernica borders closely with Darwinia and Einsteinovia. The planets are secondary satellites of Earth, since their primary object, the Sun, is itself a primary satellite of Earth. That is, they are satellites of a satellite. Phobos and Deimos are tertiary satellites of us - satellites of a satellite of a satellite. This is the hierarchy of the universe He created. Be thee now de-mystified? Robert B Even the Copernicans know about epicycles. and use them. Robert B I have not ever heard of Copernica. Is it in Europe? An alien civilisation like Atlantis? Or is that another planet? What is the difference between a primary orbit of a planet and a secondary orbit of a planet? Mystified.. Phil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.19/918 - Release Date: 25/07/2007 2:55 PM