Allen the moons axis is several degrees off that of the earth!..does that make two LOL.. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:52 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Moon Rotation Phil, "But you can see the difficulty in English expression you present" NO! I said it means more then one……. you stated no it does not mean that……...Phil the fact there is more then one is inherent, intrinsic, integral part of the meaning of synonymous!? You cannot separate that fact any more then you can separate the fact that a living human has water in them!? if they are alive ..then Phil that means water is present!? Come to the table with some reason........ you are just attempting "linguistic acrobatics" now... If you have a plate dill a hole in the center and put it on a drill there is only one axis of rotation...you may consider that axis to be a mathematical line (having no dimension) or you can also consider that axis to have the same diameter of the plate itself...the net effect is the same....one axis of rotation..not billions of axis for each molecule in the plate.....one axis not many….Counting the same thing twice does not mean you have two of them!? --- On Wed, 12/3/08, philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon Rotation To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 12:22 PM Philip, "Allen opens up a rebuttal with, "Synchronous means more then one...OK " No Allen it does not mean more than one.. HERE IS THE GENERALLY ACCEPTED MEANING"..... Phil.....you can't have a simoltanious anything with just one of them..!? Allen, Oh! now I get what you were trying to say, but please don't say sorry for getting it wrong.. You said "synchronous" means more than one.. I said it doesn't mean that at all ... two or many is more than one.. I don't recall a single word for that meaning.. But you can see the difficulty in English expression you present. Even this is out of this world for sense.. "you can't have a simoltanious anything with just one of them..!? " Perhaps you may now understand my reasons, when I referred to English as being essential for science... Philip.