# [geocentrism] Moon Rotation

• From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
• To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
• Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:40:18 -0800 (PST)

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Paul,
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1. The fact that a rotation of some kind exist does not itself tell you whether
the axis of that rotation is around a point that lay inside or outside ( orbit)
the body in question....  The ruber band twisting only tells us that something
is going around somthing else .... ....it does not tell you where the axis
is...nor is it even capable of tell you that.....

2. No one is questioning that some kind of rotation exist somwhere out there
wrt these two bodies …..The point of contention is what is rotatiing around
what; where does the common point on that axis of rotation lay? …A orbit is a
rotation but it is a rotation who’s axis lay outside the body in question v a
typical rotation where the axis of the rotation lay inside the body in
question… …internal to the moon rotation on the moons axis or rotation around a
common point that lay outside the moon…..orbit around a axis at the earth..

3. Counting the same motion twice does not mean there are two motions.. There
is only one motion and only one can be objectively demonstratied and defined.
your argument is nothing more then taking the same motion and counting it as
two different motions...sure you can do that...but just becuse you count all
the money in your wallet twice does mean you have twice as much......?!

Allen

--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Moon Rotation
To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 9:18 AM

Paul,
See attached:

1. The fact that a rotation of some kind exist does not itself tell you whether
the axis of that rotation is around a point that lay inside or outside ( orbit)
the body in question....  The ruber band twisting only tells us that something
is going around somthing else .... ....it does not tell you where the axis
is...nor is it even capable of tell you that.....

2. No one is questioning that some kind of rotation exist somwhere out there
wrt these two bodies …..The point of contention is what is rotatiing around
what; where does the common point on that axis of rotation lay? …A orbit is a
rotation but it is a rotation who’s axis lay outside the body in question v a
typical rotation where the axis of the rotation lay inside the body in
question… …internal to the moon rotation on the moons axis or rotation around a
common point that lay outside the moon…..orbit around a axis at the earth..

3. Counting the same motion twice does not mean there are two motions.. There
is only one motion and only one can be objectively demonstratied and defined.
your argument is nothing more then taking the same motion and counting it as
two different motions...sure you can do that...but just becuse you count all
the money in your wallet twice does mean you have twice as much......?!

Allen

--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon Rotation
To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 8:53 AM

Philip M

From philip madsen Tue Nov 25 12:23:12 2008 Re: Moon Rotation
Thats an ingenious idea Paul..<Ahem! Thank you ... thank you ...>  Something I
never visualised.. another way of twisting a cable?  Now I know why my hose
twists up as I walk around the yard watering..  I'll have to learn to retrace
my steps ..  Have you investigated the bank/money /Government borrowing  scam
Letter to PM. I will try to put something together soon but it is something I'd
prefer to spend a little time with. A warning though, I cannot support your
position. I hope my reasoning will satisfy you even if your conversion is not
complete.|[:-)>

From philip madsen Tue Nov 25 14:30:19 2008 Re: Moon Rotation
That actually is another proof I missed paul..  If the moon lost its primary,
the earth, it would move off tangentally in a straight line, and it would keep
its same rotation of 28 days for the Helioman and 24 hours for the
geoman.. <Exactly so. See attachment prepared in advance and here revealed for
the very first time!> This could be easily done on the kitchen table, by simply
doubling the orbit diameter on the model, where in the moon would no longer
show the same face,

Paul D

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