Paul, See attached: 1. The fact that a rotation of some kind exist does not itself tell you whether the axis of that rotation is around a point that lay inside or outside ( orbit) the body in question.... The ruber band twisting only tells us that something is going around somthing else .... ....it does not tell you where the axis is...nor is it even capable of tell you that..... 2. No one is questioning that some kind of rotation exist somwhere out there wrt these two bodies …..The point of contention is what is rotatiing around what; where does the common point on that axis of rotation lay? …A orbit is a rotation but it is a rotation who’s axis lay outside the body in question v a typical rotation where the axis of the rotation lay inside the body in question… …internal to the moon rotation on the moons axis or rotation around a common point that lay outside the moon…..orbit around a axis at the earth.. 3. Counting the same motion twice does not mean there are two motions.. There is only one motion and only one can be objectively demonstratied and defined. your argument is nothing more then taking the same motion and counting it as two different motions...sure you can do that...but just becuse you count all the money in your wallet twice does mean you have twice as much......?! Allen --- On Wed, 11/26/08, Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Moon Rotation To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 9:18 AM Paul, See attached: 1. The fact that a rotation of some kind exist does not itself tell you whether the axis of that rotation is around a point that lay inside or outside ( orbit) the body in question.... The ruber band twisting only tells us that something is going around somthing else .... ....it does not tell you where the axis is...nor is it even capable of tell you that..... 2. No one is questioning that some kind of rotation exist somwhere out there wrt these two bodies …..The point of contention is what is rotatiing around what; where does the common point on that axis of rotation lay? …A orbit is a rotation but it is a rotation who’s axis lay outside the body in question v a typical rotation where the axis of the rotation lay inside the body in question… …internal to the moon rotation on the moons axis or rotation around a common point that lay outside the moon…..orbit around a axis at the earth.. 3. Counting the same motion twice does not mean there are two motions.. There is only one motion and only one can be objectively demonstratied and defined. your argument is nothing more then taking the same motion and counting it as two different motions...sure you can do that...but just becuse you count all the money in your wallet twice does mean you have twice as much......?! Allen --- On Wed, 11/26/08, Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon Rotation To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 8:53 AM Philip M Some comments in <colour> From philip madsen Tue Nov 25 12:23:12 2008 Re: Moon Rotation Thats an ingenious idea Paul..<Ahem! Thank you ... thank you ...> Something I never visualised.. another way of twisting a cable? Now I know why my hose twists up as I walk around the yard watering.. I'll have to learn to retrace my steps .. Have you investigated the bank/money /Government borrowing scam yet? Your life does depend on it.. <I've read your 'Funny Money' and Open Letter to PM. I will try to put something together soon but it is something I'd prefer to spend a little time with. A warning though, I cannot support your position. I hope my reasoning will satisfy you even if your conversion is not complete.|[:-)> From philip madsen Tue Nov 25 14:30:19 2008 Re: Moon Rotation That actually is another proof I missed paul.. If the moon lost its primary, the earth, it would move off tangentally in a straight line, and it would keep its same rotation of 28 days for the Helioman and 24 hours for the geoman.. <Exactly so. See attachment prepared in advance and here revealed for the very first time!> This could be easily done on the kitchen table, by simply doubling the orbit diameter on the model, where in the moon would no longer show the same face, Paul D Start your day with Yahoo!7 and win a Sony Bravia TV. Enter Now
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