[geocentrism] Re: Moon Hoax sites
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:29:31 +1000
Jack on watching this vid it appears that what is proved is the use of
promotional photos for publicity.. Nothing was said that negated that the
mission was done. Only that the photos they took were not worth using in the
publicity.
Or did I miss something..
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Lewis
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 8:52 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Moon Hoax sites
Dear Paul,
Its amazing really, I like everyone else in the world believed men went to
the moon, then I was confronted with some seemingly contradictory evidence.
From what you say you also have seen this same evidence. For my part I was
convinced that the evidence was incontrovertible at the same time I asked WHY
has this been done - if it is true. I also have seen the debunking sites and am
not impressed with their explanations. So here you have it I think the case is
proved and you don't. You would say I don't want to believe it and I say that
you do. The difference between us is that I was converted by evidence but you
haven't. I would suggest that you are more biased than I am because I went from
being a believer to an unbeliever by sound rational criticism.
Here is a U Tube link for you to comment on. There are many more short
original videos, on this page which are commented on as well some very stupid
editing of original footage.
If you have looked at the pros and cons sites then there is little point in
me giving you links you may have already seen. However I do suggest you look at
the short videos on this link especially this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6MvcIs4OcQ&mode=related&search=
If as you say in your last but one paragraph, rehearsal is all important why
in heaven's name did the astronauts smuggle bits and pieces onto their
spaceship e.g. a harmonica in defiance of such a supposedly strict rehearsal
and mind boggling technical difficulties?
Regarding this rehearsing how many times did Armstrong test fly the LEM? If
he did how did they simulate flying in 1/6th gravity?
As you know there are hundreds of questions like that.
Have you watched the video 'A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon'? I
would be more than happy to send you a copy. Just send me your address.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Deema
To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:18 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Earth and science
Jack
I've visited many of these hoax sites and found none to be convincing. I've
been to hoax debunking sites and found them to be convincing. I'll try one of
you hoax sites just to show that I'm prepared to look and I'll report to you on
my findings. I'll also answer specific questions from you concerning your
nominated site. I'm not interested in video -- it's way too slow and soaks up
too much of my monthly ration of MBs.
The men in the rows of stations are organised by function. There was one
for engineering -- do you want to guess at how many components there were in an
Apollo vehicle -- where they were interested in monitoring the operation of the
various processes; another was, I believe, concerned with operations; but
definately I do remember that one whole row was concerned with navigation. The
accuracy required of heading and thrust in order to achieve success is
staggering and the maths involved would curl my teeth. Remember that in the
late 1960s, computers were not the capable devices we have today. Why don't you
look into that?
Rehearsals -- now there's a story! Have you ever been in the military Jack?
If you have you should have some rudimentary idea of the need for and the value
of rehearsals. Getting some tiny task exactly and immediately right, in the
rain and in the dark, can be the difference between winning the action and
losing, but more important -- on a personal level -- is that it might be the
difference between living to eat breakfast and having your guts and your brains
splattered all over the countryside and the bloke next to you. In the case of
Apollo in particular but space navigation in general, every tiny task is
rehearsed and the results analysed to the nth degree. Each mission costs
buckets of money and to have a failure because a spanner wouldn't fit a nut or
a vital adjusting knob was just out of reach is innexcusable! Why would you
think that coming down a ladder didn't need rehearsal? It's very often the
trivial, the unimportant which is the cause of disaster. Are you aware of the
enormous water tank in which astronauts and their helpers exercise with full
size mockups? These sorts of things are very expensive and they aren't built to
impress the visitors.
The truth about your skepticism is simply this -- you don't believe because
you don't want to believe. Put in the positive -- you want to not believe. Why
this is so almost defies belief but confronted by the reality of it I must
believe.
Paul D
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