Dear Philip, But how do you account for the RELATIVE sizes of the crater features and the tight horizon curve compared with the NASA pics? Even if a telephoto lens was used, it would make no difference to this relativity. Imagine taking the very best NASA shot and cropping it to either give the same crater detail or the same radius of curvature. I maintain you can't do both. I will admit that the lighting due to the sun is different in the two photos but the difference I speak of should still be seen. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: philip madsen To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:00 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Japan Probe Sends Photos and Video The images look close to what we saw from the appollo,orbits, just much higher definition. If the jap satellite is further away, then the ball will look smaller, but their hi definition improves the quality of the shot. Likewise for earth shots LEO PICS will look mor flat earthed and higher orbits make for ball like shots.. Its obvious to me the jap used telephoto lenze from further out.. maybe.. Phil. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Deema To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:25 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Japan Probe Sends Photos and Video Jack L Probably. But Jack, if you were given a business class ticket for a trip around the Moon, you'd find some reason to doubt your senses. Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, 9 November, 2007 6:42:56 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Japan Probe Sends Photos and Video Dear Paul, I am aware of your information but that doesn't account for the obvious very tight curve and the scale of the features. Anyone with eyesight can see that the first photo screams of a small moon. try comparing it to the NASA moon shots. Did you read my second reply to Philip? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Deema To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Japan Probe Sends Photos and Video Jack L I'm sorry -- I thought I recalled you discussing photos and photography with others here in the past. Well lenses of different focal lengths produce images with different effects. Try photographing a single object with a short and a long focal length lens adjusting your distance from the object so as to produce two images which fill equal amounts of the frame. If the focal length ratio is > 2:1 you should see at least some differences. For easy comparison, ensure that the angles remain the same for both shots -- eye level is convenient. Also, aperture is important as it affects depth of field so keep that a constant as well. Paul D ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- National Bingo Night. Play along for the chance to win $10,000 every week. Download your gamecard now at Yahoo!7 TV. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 8/11/2007 5:55 PM