[geocentrism] Re: Is geocentrism supported by facts? (Supplementary)
- From: j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:39:50 -0700 (PDT)
Jack,
I don't think that the other motions that I mentioned trying to incorporate
are large enough to make any real difference, I'm just trying to think of
everything I can in an effort to see if I've missed something really basic. Are
far as I can tell, it should be as I have described.
I'm going to hold off on the program you suggested, and have another stab at
it in the drafting software that I am familiar with, It does all kinds of cool
3d stuff. I'll send something in when I get something worth looking at. I look
forward to seeing what you come up with.
JA...
Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear James,
Was I wrong when I suggested that you had cracked the helio annual trail?
I would have thought that Neville's planetarium model could be programmed to
do an annual star trail. However it may be that it is too big a job to try and
do with Neville's current resources. Have you ever heard of a drawing program
by Google called 'Sketchup'? Its a free down load and it is very user friendly
and intuitive. You can create illustrations in 3D live as it were. This could
be a good tool to show these star trails. Why don't you download it and give it
a try. I'll have a go with mine and see what I can come up with.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: j a
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 7:05 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Is geocentrism supported by facts? (Supplementary)
Jack,
It is difficult to imagine what something looks like when it involves such
large distances and pre-conceived notions, but I'll tell you what I'm thinking.
When we were disussing this a year or 2 ago, I was of the opinion that the
double rotation was not a factor in star trails becuse the 2 baselines (1 au
versus earths radius) are not different enough in size compared to the star
distance. I could visualize it so easily. What I failed to know then that Ya'll
have made known to me now, is that the 2 rotations have different axis. That
being said, it should look like a spirograph. The edge (or a point) on the
nightly circle should trace out a different circle over a year. The small
nightly Polaris circle should trace out a larger annual circle, while a star
with a large nightly circle would trace out a smaller annual circle. Use your
drawing Jack, take any one of the nightly circles and roll it around the
circumference of the annual circle it touches. If you were able to
take a yearlong exposure of a single star it should look like a giant donut.
Polaris would make a skinny donut with a large hole.
Thats how I'm seeing it right now, subject to change, as I continue to try to
visualize the mechanics. I'm trying to wrap my head around this and I'm also
trying to consider whether the minor sine wave like motion that the observer
would traverse with the annual axis would make any difference or if I used a
more eliptical obit, it seems to be just beyond my brains ability.
I think we should get some computer expert (hint hint) to program this visual
effect for all to see what we should see if A-centrism be true. If only we knew
someone with programming experience with graphics and planetery motion (hint
hint). If only, if only. Is anyone aware of someone like that?
JA...
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