http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins Creationism Dawkins is a prominent critic of creationism, describing it as a "preposterous, mind-shrinking falsehood". His book The Blind Watchmaker contains a critique of the argument from design, and his other popular science works often touch on the topic. In 1986, Dawkins participated in the Oxford Union's Huxley Memorial Debate, in which he and John Maynard Smith debated A. E. Wilder-Smith and Edgar Andrews, president of the Biblical Creation Society. But on the advice of his late colleague Stephen Jay Gould, Dawkins generally refuses to participate in formal debates with creationists because doing so would give them the "oxygen of respectability" that they want. He argues that creationists "don't mind being beaten in an argument. What matters is that we give them recognition by bothering to argue with them in public." In a December 2004 interview with Bill Moyers, Dawkins stated that "among the things that science does know, evolution is about as certain as anything we know." When Moyers later asked, "Is evolution a theory, not a fact?", Dawkins replied, "Evolution has been observed. It's just that it hasn't been observed while it's happening." Dawkins went on to say, "It is rather like a detective coming on a murder after the scene. And you? the detective hasn't actually seen the murder take place, of course. But what you do see is a massive clue ...Circumstantial evidence, but masses of circumstantial evidence. Huge quantities of circumstantial evidence." Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: People who live in glass houses should not throw stones either. Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Jack L I stated on Neville's assurance that he would be afforded every courtesy and I pointed him to the forum so that he may read what we all write. It is well known that he is not noted for his tact -- perhaps he sees good reason for this behaviour. A Christian should not throw the first stone. Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, 7 September, 2007 2:19:55 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Invitation Dear Jack, I had to smile when I read this. And if you read it again, you will understand why. Neville. -----Original Message----- From: jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:33:23 +0100 To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Invitation I look forward to his response but don't hold your breath. He know s he will get creamed! He has no time for people who say 'God did it' but has plenty of time for those who say 'first there was nothing then it exploded and then against all the odds out came life miraculously'. If you read any of his comments about people of faith especially Christians you will see that take-up of your offer is unlikely - unless there is some money in it. Dawkins is not a rational, scientifically unbiased, objective man, he is obsessively anti-anybody who is not an evolutionist. With regard to us being courteous, it will be Dawkins who will be first to start name-calling. He can be extremely rude to his detractors. Jack --------------------------------- Get Free 5GB Online Storage - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now. --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.