"This could be very interesting" said God, "Show me how you do it". The scientist, having once been a Bible scholar, picked up a handful of dust, at which point God said, "No-no, you must play fair, you will have to make your own dust first!" Jack L Not scientific Jack. You have no imagination .. From ashes to ashes and from dust to dust...Is a biblical statement of evolution. The first dust is the final dust that is just a part of a continuous cyclic loop in time.. A quite rational philosophy and it does not actually exclude God.. But it is not necessary to include Him either. From a purely physical scientific point of view it is far more sensible that to dream up a fantasy of an uncreated being. And without revelation, that is what the idea of a God is equivalent to.. A fairytale fantasy. Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Lewis To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 7:53 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Integrity in science Dear Philip, There is a very simple answer to that. Let them try it using raw chemicals instead of the ready made God designed parts. Isn't it strange that man and all his technology cannot do what blind, random chances did! There was a scientist who said to God, "We don't need you anymore", "Is that so?" replied God. "Yep, we now have the technology to do anything we like." "Can you make a man?" asked God. "Easy-peasey" said the scientist. " Could you make a man the way I did?" asked God. "yep." "This could be very interesting" said God, "Show me how you do it". The scientist, having once been a Bible scholar, picked up a handful of dust, at which point God said, "No-no, you must play fair, you will have to make your own dust first!" Jack L philip madsen wrote: Jack said: Yes its a bit like abiogenesis, without it there is nothing to kick-start evolution and therefore without it the model crumbles. I was sure that when they clone a dead embyro which was artificially constructed from living tissue to be sure, the life was kick started by a spark of electricity.. Shades of the frankenstein monster kicked into life with a bolt of lightening.. That is still a freaky possibility Jack.. A lot of "christians" are convinced.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1191 - Release Date: 20/12/2007 2:14 PM