You guys say that you set a lot of store by experiment in the pursuit of knowledge. Yet those who do the experiments and get results you don't like, you roundly condemn with accusations of conspiracy and lying. And you do no experiments of your own. You just snipe at everyone who does. This is unbecoming of you and emotion charged.. We chose different experimenters.. And it is the more modern ones we condemn. I cite the global warming , now subtly changed to climate change, as an example of bad modern science... but it is not the consensus of scientists, there are many objections, but the politically controlled ones.. WE HAVE had global cooling on a grand scale for two years now. And Mars has also ... see NASA latest where the rover has shut down due to lack of sun to charge the batteries due to climate change on Mars.. I am not sniping... read my science.... Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Deema To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:17 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Indian satellite Several -- greetings. Neville J Cosmic rays cause damage to electronic circuitry, so why did they not do any damage aboard Apollo? And we are exposed to cosmic rays here on terra firma, but I, for one, do not register flashes in my eyes. I don't recall anyone claiming Apollo was exempted. Yes cosmic rays damage electronic circuitry. However it is not a one hit one failure phenomenon. The problem is related to the area occupied by the semi-conductor junctions. In the Apollo era, component density was low and hence junction area was large which signals high survivability. Cosmic rays are just as common today as then and component density has multiplied many times but the shuttle keeps flying and Indian satellites get to the Moon. My house has many cracked bricks due to the drought but it doesn't fall over. I don't know the answer to your eye flashes. This does not however convert me from being a normal trusting person (with very few instances in my near biblical quota of years of having been taken advantage of) to someone who sees a shadow under every bush, a predator in every dark alley. Philip M Paul, Cosmic rays are everywhere, and would be the same at any distance from above the atmosphere LEOs to any height.. Your reply does not logically fit with the evidence that this phenomenon increases dramatically with height. commensurate with VA readings.. See reply to Neville above. Also, you seem to say here that cosmic rays would be more common above the atmosphere but Neville says different. "This phenomenon ..." -- van Allen belt(s)? They don't go on increasing indefinitely. Allen D Will the aggregate radiation at the belt cause you .... "to be or not to be".......That is the question? Nice turn of phrase! And your thoughts are certainly closer to mine than others expressed in this thread. (If I interpret you correctly). All. How many of you have positively -- court of law positive -- identified among all those people who are known to you and with whom you interact, who are guilty of any of the heinous acts of conspiracy which seems to be your principle explanation for everything happening in this world with which you disagree and/or dislike? If they exist in the numbers which would be necessary to perpetuate the absolutely enormous conspiracies which seem to be the subject of your principle waking thoughts, then in a group even as small as this nest of conspiracy mongers, I'd hazard the guess that you each must have identified many such persons. So -- how many? Who are they? The green grocer? Your postman? Local member of parliament? How about the guy you bought your last car from? The lady who cuts your wife's hair? The local headmaster? Police constable? The chemist? Clergyman from the church you DON'T attend? Local Mullah or Imam? That shifty guy who lives just a few doors down your street and never seems to go to work? (How does he survive? Someone MUST be supporting him!) You guys say that you set a lot of store by experiment in the pursuit of knowledge. Yet those who do the experiments and get results you don't like, you roundly condemn with accusations of conspiracy and lying. And you do no experiments of your own. You just snipe at everyone who does. Do you not agree that if Apollo is the reality then your hypothesis is wrong? Paul D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Search 1000's of available singles in your area at the new Yahoo!7 Dating. Get Started.