Dan, If you believe the earth "cannot be moved", and that this is a "fact confirmed to me by the word of God", why are you still in a dilemma about whether the earth rotates or not? You can't be certain that the earth is immovable and still wondering that it moves...those are mutually exclusive propositions. I'm not sure what kind of confusion are you having on this. Also, the h-people don't claim the earth rotates clockwise, but rather counter-clockwise ("anti-clockwise" per Dr. Jones). If the earth rotated clockwise, we would see the sun rise in the west. Sincerely, Gary Shelton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan" <danchap9@xxxxxxxxx> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Geocentrism how I see it. > Neville, > > From my own personal observations from the movements of the sun and moon and stars I have come to the conclusion that yes the earth is at the centre and it cannot be moved. That for me is a fact confirmed to me by the word of God. However what I can not conclude on is do the stars move around a fixed earth or does the earth rotate clockwise and the stars are fixed and the sun moon and planets rotate at different speeds according to their distance from the earth? I feel that the earth rotates clockwise which gives us the elusion that the stars move around the earth.I may be wrong. > > > > Dan. > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/05