[geocentrism] Re: Geocentrism how I see it.

  • From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:02:32 +1000

You don't need to
prove fact A (smaller universe) to prove fact B (nonmoving earth).  It's
an easy effort for an almighty God either way. 
Exactly... I say the same for the evolutionists who talk of scientific creation 
or evolution...

God does not need science to "prove" how He created the world. He did it in six 
days... end of story..  creation science are in there because they doubt the 
power of God, in that they recognise science as some sort of infallible 
institution that can BIND  Almighty God to do it their way... 

Science is not even on the first rung of the ladder of knowledge....In fact 
modern science is well and truly under the control of the prince of liars, in 
the age of lies....

I exempt those scientists who like the true Christian lawyers, will not work 
for firms who are liars, thieves and cheats... I know of a few...

Sorry  all you docs out there...
Phil.... 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Niemann, Nicholas K. 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:48 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Geocentrism how I see it.


  Neville,
  Why does it matter whether the universe is "much much smaller".  If God
  can whip the stars around a nonmoving earth when they are X billion
  miles away, he is equally powerful to be able to whip the stars around
  the earth when they are XXXX billion miles away.  You don't need to
  prove fact A (smaller universe) to prove fact B (nonmoving earth).  It's
  an easy effort for an almighty God either way.  If the geocentric
  position doesn't really need the smaller universe, then why make it a
  condition, as I "think" you may be doing.  Tie a rock to the end of a 10
  foot rope and whip it around you.  Then tie it to a 10 mile rope.  If
  you have unlimited strength, you can move both around fast enough so an
  entire revolution occurs in the same time.  (I'm not a scientist, so I
  don't know if you see something else that contradicts this).  No matter
  how small you get the universe, it will still be a large distance for
  the stars to go in 24 hours.  My point is God can do it despite the
  length.
  Regards,
  Nick. 

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Dr. Neville Jones [mailto:ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:21 PM
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Geocentrism how I see it.

  Dan,
   
  Forget the "science" for a moment. Let's reason from Scripture.
   
  Joshua asked God that he might be allowed to command the Sun and Moon to
  stand still. God granted this, and the Sun and Moon stood still for
  almost a whole day.
   
  If the World rotates, then there is no way to cater for this
  instruction, because stopping the World would not stop BOTH the Sun and
  the Moon (they go around at different rates). To make them APPEAR to
  stop, God would actually have to have INCREASED their speeds. And His
  command to them to stop would have thus been ignored.
   
  My guess is that you are hesitant about the stars' rotation because of
  the enormous size we are "taught" for the universe. But what if the
  universe were much, much smaller??
   
  Keep thinking on this.
   
  Neville.

  Dan <danchap9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  Neville,

  From my own personal observations from the movements of the sun and moon
  and stars I have come to the conclusion that yes the earth is at the
  centre and it cannot be moved. That for me is a fact confirmed to me by
  the word of God. However what I can not conclude on is do the stars move
  around a fixed earth or does the earth rotate clockwise and the stars
  are fixed and the sun moon and planets rotate at different speeds
  according to their distance from the earth? I feel that the earth
  rotates clockwise which gives us the elusion that the stars move around
  the earth.I may be wrong.

  Dan.

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