Thank you all for your participation on this forum, it certainly must be one of the foremost forums in the world regarding geocentrism and without your support it would not be in such a position. Personally, I'm pleased that we're using freelists again, it's a powerful mail server and doesn't apply style-files to posts which yahoo did. Dear Martin, sorry for the delay in replying, however, I did catch a nasty cold-like bug recently which I'm almost recovered from now. Thank you for the nice response regarding ending the predestination debate. Can those who can computer program please let me know who you are please, I have an idea, but at this moment it is only that. Finally, please write in if you have a special request for a feature you would like to see in GU 4.0. If this program gets released it will without doubt be quite amazing. A few things that you can expect are: Utilization of hardware-accelerated drawing techniques via OpenGL. Something you may all like as well is that we're going to have a larger universe size, enabling planets to fit in more easily and thus ensuring that their deferents and epicycles will be clearly visible and the flower pattern will be drawn with accuracy as it was with the legacy version 2.2 Unfortunately, still not sure about those of you who are Mac users but a cross-platform compile is being researched. Has anyone tried running GU via Wine on linux? Out of curiosity I would be interested to know if it works. Very clear multimedia and video presentations which will really help to explain lots of key issues in a geocentric cosmos. Kind Regards, Steven Jones. --------------------------------- The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider.