[geocentrism] Re: Fw: another victory of Our Lady (through the rosary) in Ar
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:31:39 +1000
Marc your attachment to the idea of a "visible" church is erroneous. It is
illogical too. Whilst I am reluctant to use scripture alone, it does tell us
that the Church in the catacombs was visible with a little v.. It may also be
inferred that to the catacombs it will return. still a little v in persecution.
VISIBLE means in my context, known and sought after by those having the desire
by grace to find Her, and I would add the grace to recognise the harlot..There
is not many of these today.
"..Upon This Rock I will build My Church, and the gates of hell shall not
prevail against it."
(Matt. 16:18)
"The Church is like the moon; it may wane, but never be destroyed; it may be
darkened, but it can never disappear." St. Ambrose
Now my personal vision is in no way Protestant. I deny not a single dogma of
the eternal church. I do not seek to establish an alternative to Rome. I know
this, that unless this is the last days as prophesied, the faith will be
restored to Rome, and the harlot expelled.
Fatima tells us this will happen... probably after this great chastisement
about to envelope us. However in the last days, or even in this chastisement,
Rome will be annihilated. Other private prophecy says Paris and London too. The
church will return to the east, and the See will be in Jerusalem, till the time
of the final persecution and the antichrist.
Sister Lucy was a prisoner and was locked up, especially in the last days when
the Vatican became hostile and began to openly lie about her. In the beginning
she was bound by vows of obedience, and when these became no impediment to
speak, she was silenced.
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: marc-veilleux@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To: Geocentric
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:54 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Fw: another victory of Our Lady (through the
rosary) in Ar
Philip,
It is my belief that the Holy Spirit does his work on unbelievers and does
miracles in his visible Church (the Catholic Church with the visible
hierarchy), no matter how sick the faith is in His Church. I believe sister
Lucy of Fatima was a faithfull catholic until the end of her life and that Our
Lord and Our Lady always kept in close contact with her. Your vision of the
Church is simply protestant or has a strong tendency towards it (their church
is not visible for common people).
Marc V.
----- Original Message -----
From: philip madsen
Sent: 21 septembre 2008 18:35
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Fw: another victory of Our Lady (through the
rosary) in Ar
Marc I tend towards Nevilles assessment on the power of phsycology here.
Mary represents an entirely different kind of woman, with true dignity compared
to them .. and deep down they have to sense that.
I cannot believe that God would lend credence to a noncatholic religion by
demonstrating supernatural power. He has never done so for any other religion
in the past. And this cathedral is already desecrated by the abomination of
desolation that is the new church currently occupying the seat of power in Rome.
It is this supernatural aspect that marks the true church for Catholics,
and the Devils church for those who hate us. A sign of the Devil they say!
Strange, in that therefore the only supernatural force in the entire history of
the AD world is the Devil, as we do not see God working any great prodigys for
the others.
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Neville Jones
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:05 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Fw: another victory of Our Lady (through the
rosary) in Ar
Marc,
I have played it again, this time with sound.
I disagree about chanting a 'rosary' except to say that it keeps those
chanting or singing focused and increases their awareness and their spirit.
This effect is recognized even in the movie industry (for example, the British
Army being told to sing 'Men of Harlech' at Rorke's Drift, Natal, against the
Zulu armies in the film, 'Zulu', is an interesting psychological observation).
That said, I admire these men and women for their courage and, in
particular, their faith. To stand up and be counted in the face of such
adversity is not easy!
By the way, did you notice the 'Lesbian and teacher' label on one of the
mob? I wonder what she is 'teaching' the children entrusted to her?
Neville
www.realityreviewed.com
-----Original Message-----
From: marc-veilleux@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:53:47 -0400
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Fw: another victory of Our Lady (through the
rosary) in Ar
Dr Neville,
Thank you for your commentaries; unfortunately, since you could not
hear the sounds, you missed the essential part: the 70 catholic youths that
succeeded in stopping the diabolical mob estimated between 10 and 15 thousands
... were praying the rosary without ceasing ! Without the help of Our Lady, it
was humanly impossible to stop such a mob!
Marc
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