[geocentrism] Re: Fw: Bulletin on Russian Orthodox Patriarch and Evolution from Hugh

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 09:49:31 +1000

Marc, pretty well all you say agrees with my own interpretation. After the 25 
years or so of peace, The final anti-christ, the man of sin, comes on the 
scene..  
 
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for unless there come a revolt first, 
and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition 4 Who opposeth and is 
lifted up above all that is called God or that is worshipped, so that he 
sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself as if he were God. 

Philip. 
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Evolution from Hugh


  Philip,
  I believe that Russia is being prepared by the Holy Spirit for its conversion 
to catholicism.  It will convert after the consecration of Russia is done as 
requested by God through the Virgin Mary.  I believe that Russia will be (soon) 
the instrument that God will use to chastise the Church and the World.  But 
after the consecration will be done according to God's demand, I believe there 
will be a time of peace (perhaps around 25 years) in which the Great (Catholic) 
Monarch will rule over the world.
  Marc V.
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Evolution from Hugh


     
    And Marc, it is just one more piece of the puzzle put in place for the 
final chapter of Fatima, wherein Russia starting the tribulation,  in the end, 
will be the instrument of the defeat of US imperialism/materialism, Islamism, 
and international communism, all arms of the antchristian Jews, those who are 
called Jews but are not.    

    Still waiting for the consecration of Russia of course, which seems not 
likely now till the tribulation is well and truly in full swing, wiping out 
entire nations...Thats when Russia changes sides...Other prophecies indicate a 
true Christian revolution in the USA as well.

    Why soon?  well we are now with the second last Pope of Rome, before Petrus 
Romanus, St. Malachy, and Lucia died on February 13,  2005   and  requested her 
burial be delayed 12 months thence.  So look for a major event world wide from 
February 2006.  Plenty to chose from..  

    Philip

    #  Remember after Petrus Romanus the See returns to Jerusalem...  no more 
Popes of Rome...  Maybe no more Rome, or Paris or....  
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Evolution from Hugh


      Wow!  That's good news!
      M.V.
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      Russian Orthodox patriarch blasts teaching Darwin in schools
             MOSCOW, January 29 (RIA Novosti) - Imposing on schoolchildren the 
theory that humans descended from apes is unacceptable, the head of the Russian 
Orthodox Church said Monday. 

            Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the church has campaigned 
for the right to teach the basics of the Orthodox faith in public schools as a 
challenge to Darwin's theory of evolution, which was official dogma in Soviet 
times. 

            The issue has had particular resonance after schoolgirl Mariya 
Shraiber and her father filed a lawsuit demanding that Darwinism be stripped of 
its dominant position in the Russian school curriculum, calling its teaching to 
the exclusion of other theories a gross violation of the freedom of choice. 

            "Teaching the biblical theory of the world's creation will not harm 
students. If people choose to believe that they descended from apes, let them, 
but without imposing their opinions on others," Patriarch Alexy II of Moscow 
and All Russia told an educational conference in the Kremlin, which was 
attended by government and military officials, public and cultural figures and 
spiritual leaders from Russia and former Soviet republics. 

            Alexy II said it was important not only to respect the rights of 
minorities, but those of the Orthodox majority as well, whose share the Church 
put at 90% of the total population throughout Russia, and whose children 
"should know the basics of their religion." 

            "If introduced, the subject will not be in breach of the principle 
of secularism fixed in the Constitution," he said, adding that teaching the 
basics of Orthodoxy would prevent the ideas of nationalism and extremism from 
taking root at school. 

            The calls by Orthodox leaders for a course on the history of 
Christianity, whether optional or mandatory, to be included in school 
curriculums has met with opposition from leaders of other faiths practiced in 
Russia, who say a course on the history of all religions should be introduced. 

            Advocates of a secular society have protested the introduction of 
such a course in schools at all, saying that even if students were interested 
and it was introduced, it would have to be taught by secular professors and be 
optional rather than mandatory. 

            ► Darwinism’s strict settlement imposed on school must give way 
to the student’s right to choose a scientific worldview, a representative of 
the Russian Orthodox Church say 

            Moscow, January 30, Interfax - The vice-chairman of the Department 
for External Church Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate Archpriest Vsevolod 
Chaplin supported children’s and their parents’ right to choose what 
interpretation of the origin of man and life on Earth to study in school. 

            ‘Until now there has been the monopoly and strict settlement of 
Darwinism, which, though but a hypothesis, a theory of the origin of man and 
world, is presented today as an indisputable scientific truth,’ Fr. Vsevolod 
told the Ekho Moskvy radio broadcasting in his interview. 

            Many scientists think that in Darwin’s theory ‘there is pretty 
much strained argumentation’, and archaeological facts, which had been 
presented as ‘something unquestionable’ in Soviet textbooks are in reality 
‘very much fragmentary’ and ‘can never provide a solid basis to prove 
that a biological species may evolve into another one.’ 

            ‘In any event, this theory has little evidence. So, insisting 
that it is a proven scientific truth is at least imprudent,’ the Moscow 
Patriarchate’s representative said, having also mentioned that Darwin’s 
theory had much ideology in it. 

            The schoolchildren and their parents should ‘enjoy their right to 
have their worldview taught in schools,’ he said. 

            It was a part of the international law that the school curriculum 
must be in keeping with the concrete family’s worldview, Fr. Vsevolod noted. 
           

      Russian Orthodox patriarch blasts teaching Darwin in schools
             MOSCOW, January 29 (RIA Novosti) - Imposing on schoolchildren the 
theory that humans descended from apes is unacceptable, the head of the Russian 
Orthodox Church said Monday. 

            Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the church has campaigned 
for the right to teach the basics of the Orthodox faith in public schools as a 
challenge to Darwin's theory of evolution, which was official dogma in Soviet 
times. 

            The issue has had particular resonance after schoolgirl Mariya 
Shraiber and her father filed a lawsuit demanding that Darwinism be stripped of 
its dominant position in the Russian school curriculum, calling its teaching to 
the exclusion of other theories a gross violation of the freedom of choice. 

            "Teaching the biblical theory of the world's creation will not harm 
students. If people choose to believe that they descended from apes, let them, 
but without imposing their opinions on others," Patriarch Alexy II of Moscow 
and All Russia told an educational conference in the Kremlin, which was 
attended by government and military officials, public and cultural figures and 
spiritual leaders from Russia and former Soviet republics. 

            Alexy II said it was important not only to respect the rights of 
minorities, but those of the Orthodox majority as well, whose share the Church 
put at 90% of the total population throughout Russia, and whose children 
"should know the basics of their religion." 

            "If introduced, the subject will not be in breach of the principle 
of secularism fixed in the Constitution," he said, adding that teaching the 
basics of Orthodoxy would prevent the ideas of nationalism and extremism from 
taking root at school. 

            The calls by Orthodox leaders for a course on the history of 
Christianity, whether optional or mandatory, to be included in school 
curriculums has met with opposition from leaders of other faiths practiced in 
Russia, who say a course on the history of all religions should be introduced. 

            Advocates of a secular society have protested the introduction of 
such a course in schools at all, saying that even if students were interested 
and it was introduced, it would have to be taught by secular professors and be 
optional rather than mandatory. 

            ► Darwinism’s strict settlement imposed on school must give way 
to the student’s right to choose a scientific worldview, a representative of 
the Russian Orthodox Church say 

            Moscow, January 30, Interfax - The vice-chairman of the Department 
for External Church Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate Archpriest Vsevolod 
Chaplin supported children’s and their parents’ right to choose what 
interpretation of the origin of man and life on Earth to study in school. 

            ‘Until now there has been the monopoly and strict settlement of 
Darwinism, which, though but a hypothesis, a theory of the origin of man and 
world, is presented today as an indisputable scientific truth,’ Fr. Vsevolod 
told the Ekho Moskvy radio broadcasting in his interview. 

            Many scientists think that in Darwin’s theory ‘there is pretty 
much strained argumentation’, and archaeological facts, which had been 
presented as ‘something unquestionable’ in Soviet textbooks are in reality 
‘very much fragmentary’ and ‘can never provide a solid basis to prove 
that a biological species may evolve into another one.’ 

            ‘In any event, this theory has little evidence. So, insisting 
that it is a proven scientific truth is at least imprudent,’ the Moscow 
Patriarchate’s representative said, having also mentioned that Darwin’s 
theory had much ideology in it. 

            The schoolchildren and their parents should ‘enjoy their right to 
have their worldview taught in schools,’ he said. 

            It was a part of the international law that the school curriculum 
must be in keeping with the concrete family’s worldview, Fr. Vsevolod noted. 
           

       



      
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