[geocentrism] Fw: 650 international scientists dissent over man-made global warming

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:30:34 +1000

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The following report backs up what I and other thinking people understand.  
Where does this leave our politicians?  

We can Identify the enemy within by either their support for or silence in 
issues of importance.

If one is in a position of influance such as is every politician, every media 
personality and all other high profile people, and they remain silent when it 
is clear that the people are being conned, for any reason, then out into the 
light of day they should come and admit their error, those that don't, be they 
leaders, actors or journalists all shoud lose public support because they are 
clearly part of the enemy within. Joe Bryant.


FYI:    The UN global warming conference currently underway in Poland 
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----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: U.N. blowback: more than 650 international scientists dissent over 
man-made global warming claims


  December 10, Anno Domini 2008

  Posted by Marc Morano - 9:36 AM ET - Marc_Morano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

  UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made 
Global Warming Claims 

  Study: Half of warming due to Sun! -Sea Levels Fail to Rise? - Warming Fears 
in "Dustbin of History"    

  POZNAN, Poland - The UN global warming conference currently underway in 
Poland is about to face a serious challenge from over 650 dissenting scientists 
from around the globe who are criticizing the climate claims made by the UN 
IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore.  Set for release this week, a newly 
updated U.S. Senate Minority Report features the dissenting voices of over 650 
international scientists, many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have 
now turned against the UN. The report has added about 250 scientists (and 
growing) in 2008 to the over 400 scientists who spoke out in 2007. The over 650 
dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) 
who authored the media hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers. 

  The U.S. Senate report is the latest evidence of the growing groundswell of 
scientific opposition rising to challenge the UN and Gore. Scientific meetings 
are now being dominated by a growing number of skeptical scientists. The 
prestigious International Geological Congress, dubbed the geologists' 
equivalent of the Olympic Games, was held in Norway in August 2008 and 
prominently featured the voices and views of scientists skeptical of man-made 
global warming fears. [See Full report Here: & See: Skeptical scientists 
overwhelm conference: '2/3 of presenters and question-askers were hostile to, 
even dismissive of, the UN IPCC' ] 

  Full Senate Report Set To Be Released in the Next 24 Hours - Stay Tuned.  

  A hint of what the upcoming report contains:     

  "I am a skeptic.Global warming has become a new religion." - Nobel Prize 
Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.    

  "Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any 
funding, I can speak quite frankly..As a scientist I remain skeptical." -  
Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to 
receive a PhD in meteorology  and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 
190 studies and has been called "among the most preeminent scientists of the 
last 100 years."   

  Warming fears are the "worst scientific scandal in the history.When people 
come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and 
scientists." - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning 
PhD environmental physical chemist.   

  "The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn't listen to others. 
It doesn't have open minds. I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has 
been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not 
geologists," - Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and 
a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.   

  "The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they only are 
based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not 
include, for example, solar activity." - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a 
researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University 
of Mexico   

  "It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only 
a fringe of scientists who don't buy into anthropogenic global warming." - U.S 
Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane 
Research Division of NOAA.  

  "Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have 
little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds 
dominate the worldwide scene and always will." - . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a 
professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the 
University of Auckland, NZ. 

  "After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing 
skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet." - Climate statistician 
Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast 
evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society's Probability and 
Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.   

  "For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that 
the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist 
Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International 
Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is 
currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.   

  "Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found 
myself solidly in the skeptic camp.Climate models can at best be useful for 
explaining climate changes after the fact." - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of 
Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a 
former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.   

  "Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from 
promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined." - 
Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and 
Coordination Center in Pittsburgh. 

  "Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense.The 
present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext 
for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is 
concerning." - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, 
the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 
published articles. 

  "CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another..Every 
scientist knows this, but it doesn't pay to say so.Global warming, as a 
political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver's seat and developing nations 
walking barefoot." - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of 
Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan. 

  "The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that 
it is something that generates funds." - Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. 
Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and 
head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata.  # # 

  In addition, the report will feature new peer-reviewed scientific studies and 
analyses refuting man-made warming fears and a heavy dose of inconvenient 
climate developments. (See Below: Study: Half of warming due to Sun! -Sea 
Levels Fail to Rise? - Warming Fears in 'Dustbin of History')   

  The Senate Minority Report is an update of 2007's blockbuster U.S. Senate 
Minority Report of over 400 dissenting scientists. See here: This new report 
will contain the names, quotes and analyses of literally hundreds of additional 
international scientists who publicly dissented from man-made climate fears in 
just 2008 alone. The chorus of scientific voices skeptical grow louder as a 
steady stream of peer-reviewed studies, analyses and real world data challenge 
the UN and former Vice President Al Gore's claims that the "science is settled" 
and there is a "consensus." The original 2007 U.S. Senate report is available 
here:  Full Report Set To Be Released in the Next 24 Hours - Stay Tuned.  

  Meanwhile, while the UN climate conference is in session here in Poznan, the 
bad scientific news for promoters of man-made climate alarm just keeps rolling 
in. Below is a very small sampling of very inconvenient developments for Gore, 
the United Nations, and their promoters in the mainstream media. Peer-reviewed 
studies, analyses, and prominent scientists continue to speak out to refute 
climate fears. The data presented below is just from the past week.    

  # 

  Peer-reviewed study: Half of recent warming was solar! - December 10, 2008 

  Excerpt:  In this dose of peer-reviewed skeptical climatological literature, 
we follow Climate Research News. The blog was intrigued by a new article in 
Geophysical Research Letters that was accepted on Friday, December 5th. 
Eichler, A., S. Olivier, K. Henderson, A. Laube, J. Beer, T. Papina, H. W. 
Gäggeler, and M. Schwikowski: Temperature response in the Altai region lags 
solar forcing - Recall that the Siberian Altai Mountains are found at the 
intersection of Russia, China, Mongolia, and Kazakhstan. The authors looked at 
750 years worth of the local ice core, especially the oxygen isotope. They 
claim to have found a very strong correlation between the concentration of this 
isotope (i.e. temperature) on one side and the known solar activity in the 
epoch 1250-1850. Their data seem to be precise enough to determine the lag, 
about 10-30 years. It takes some time for the climate to respond to the solar 
changes. It seems that they also have data to claim that the correlation gets 
less precise after 1850. They attribute the deviation to CO2 and by comparing 
the magnitude of the forcings, they conclude that "Our results are in agreement 
with studies based on NH temperature reconstructions [Scafetta et al., 2007] 
revealing that only up to approximately 50% of the observed global warming in 
the last 100 years can be explained by the Sun." Well, the word "only" is 
somewhat cute in comparison with the "mainstream" fashionable ideology. The 
IPCC said that they saw a 90% probability that "most" of the recent warming was 
man-made. The present paper would reduce this figure, 90%, to less than 50% 
because the Sun itself is responsible for 1/2 of the warming and not the whole 
50% of the warming could have been caused by CO2 because there are other 
effects, too. Note that if 0.3 °C or 0.4 °C of warming in the 20th century was 
due to the increasing CO2 levels, the climate sensitivity is decisively smaller 
than 1 °C. At any rate, the expected 21st century warming due to CO2 would be 
another 0.3-0.4 °C, and this time, if the solar activity contributes with the 
opposite sign, these two effects could cancel. Even if you try to stretch these 
numbers a little bit - but not unrealistically - you have to become sure that 
the participants of the Poznan conference are lunatics.    

  Flashback: New scientific analysis shows Sun "could account for as much as 
69% of the increase in Earth's average temperature" (LINK) & (LINK)    

  Dr. Bruce West, A U.S Army Chief Scientist, Says Sun, Not Man, Is Driving 
Climate Change - June 3, 2008 - (LINK)  

  21 spotless days and solar magnetic field still in a funk - Meteorologist 
Anthony Watts Excerpt: We are now at 21 days with no sunspots, it will be 
interesting to see if we reach a spotless 30 day period and then perhaps a 
spotless month of December.   

  New Arctic ice analysis reveals 'No clear evidence of a delay in the start of 
the later summer/early fall freeze up or the start of the late winter/early 
spring melt' - Excerpt: Based on analysis by William Chapman, author of The 
Cryosphere Today website, graciously prepared an analysis of the dates of the 
minimum and maximum Arctic sea ice coverage since 1979.  

  Oscillation Rules as the Pacific Cools - December 9, 2008 Excerpt: A cool 
wedge of lower-than-normal sea-surface heights continues to dominate the 
tropical Pacific, ringed by a horseshoe of warmer waters. The continuation of 
this long-term cool phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation stacks the odds 
against a wetter-than-average winter/spring in the southwestern United States. 
The latest image of sea-surface height measurements from the U.S./French 
Jason-1 oceanography satellite shows the Pacific Ocean remains locked in a 
strong, cool phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, a large, long-lived 
pattern of climate variability in the Pacific associated with a general cooling 
of Pacific waters. [.]  Sea-surface temperature satellite data from the 
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration mirror Jason sea-surface height 
measurements, clearly showing a cool Pacific Decadal Oscillation pattern, as 
seen at: http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/map/images/sst/sst.anom.gif . "This multi-year 
Pacific Decadal Oscillation 'cool' trend can cause La Niña-like impacts around 
the Pacific basin," said Bill Patzert, an oceanographer and climatologist at 
NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. [.] This cool phase will likely persist this 
winter and, perhaps, beyond.  

  Report: Sea Level rise 'has stumbled since 2005' - Meteorologist Anthony 
Watts - December 5, 2008 Excerpt: We've been waiting for the UC web page to be 
updated with the most recent sea level data. It finally has been updated for 
2008. It looks like the steady upward trend of sea level as measured by 
satellite has stumbled since 2005. The 60 day line in blue tells the story. 
From the University of Colorado web page: "Long-term mean sea level change is a 
variable of considerable interest in the studies of global climate change. The 
measurement of long-term changes in global mean sea level can provide an 
important corroboration of predictions by climate models of global warming. 
Long term sea level variations are primarily determined with two different 
methods." - Yes, I would agree, it is indeed a variable of considerable 
interest. The question now is, how is it linked to global climate change (aka 
global warming) if CO2 continues to increase, and sea level does not?  

  Peer-Reviewed Study: Recent worldwide land warming' NOT 'a direct response to 
increasing greenhouse gases (GHGs) over land' - WorldClimateReport.com - 
December 3, 2008 'Rethinking Observed Warming?' Key quote: "Evidence is 
presented that the recent worldwide land warming has occurred largely in 
response to a worldwide warming of the oceans rather than as a direct response 
to increasing greenhouse gases (GHGs) over land."  

  Alert: 2008 will be coolest year of the decade!- December 5, 2008 Excerpt: 
This year is set to be the coolest since 2000, according to a preliminary 
estimate of global average temperature that is due to be released next week by 
the Met Office. The global average for 2008 should come in close to 14.3C, 
which is 0.14C below the average temperature for 2001-07. [Note: For evidence 
of the panic apparently gripping the promoters of man-made climate fear, read 
the quotes in the article from the warming partisans absolutely assuring 
everyone that cool temperatures are "absolutely not" evidence that global 
warming is on the wane. Those same voices are usually absent when it comes to 
linking heat waves to global warming. ] 

  Flashback: Global Cooling? - 'Thirty years of warmer temperatures go poof' - 
National Post - October 20, 2008   

  Report: NASA's James Hansen "adjusts" a cooling trend into a warming trend - 
December 9, 2008 Excerpt: "[H]ere is what the data looks like before and after 
NASA GISS adjusts it. These are the USHCN "raw" and "homogenized" data plots 
from the GISTEMP website. The before and after is quite something to behold. 
... What was down, is now up." "How not to measure temperature, part 79"   

  Geophysist: 'It is time to file this theory in the dustbin of history' - 
'Alarmists are in denial and running for cover'- Washington Times 

  By Geophysicist Dr. David Deming, associate professor of arts and sciences at 
the University of Oklahoma who has published numerous peer-reviewed research 
articles. Excerpt: Environmental extremists and global warming alarmists are in 
denial and running for cover. Their rationale for continuing a lost cause is 
that weather events in the short term are not necessarily related to long-term 
climatic trends. But these are the same people who screamed at us each year 
that ordinary weather events such as high temperatures or hurricanes were 
undeniable evidence of imminent doom. Now that global warming is over, 
politicians are finally ready to enact dubious solutions to a non-existent 
problem. [.] To the extent global warming was ever valid, it is now officially 
over. It is time to file this theory in the dustbin of history, next to 
Aristotelean physics, Neptunism, the geocentric universe, phlogiston, and a 
plethora of other incorrect scientific theories, all of which had vocal and 
dogmatic supporters who cited incontrovertible evidence. Weather and climate 
change are natural processes beyond human control. To argue otherwise is to 
deny the factual evidence.   

  Climate Chancellor' No More - Der Spiegel Excerpt: Angela Merkel is facing 
withering criticism for remarks she made on Monday that seemed to back away 
from her earlier commitment to tackling climate change.   

  Alert: Under the Weather: Internal Report Says U.N. Climate Agency Rife With 
Bad Practices - Fox News - December 4, 2008 

  Excerpt: As more than 10,000 delegates and observers gather in Poznan, 
Poland, to discuss the next phase in the battle against "climate change," a 
U.N. agency at the center of that hoopla badly needs to do some in-house 
weather-proofing. [.] But the WMO, the $80 million U.N. front-line agency in 
the climate change struggle, and the source for much of the world's information 
in the global atmosphere and water supply, has serious management problems of 
its own, despite its rapidly expanding global ambitions. The international 
agency has been sharply criticized by a U.N. inspection unit in a confidential 
report obtained by FOX News, for, among other things, haphazard budget 
practices, deeply flawed organizational procedures, and no effective oversight 
by the 188 nations that formally make up its membership and dole out its funds. 
The inspection was carried out by a member of the United Nations Joint 
Inspection Unit (JIU), a small, independent branch of the U.N. that reports to 
the General Assembly and is mandated to improve the organization's efficiency 
and coordination through its inspection process. [.] WMO did not respond to a 
series of questions from FOX News regarding its future programs, sent on the 
eve of the Poznan meeting.  

  16-year-old suggests sheep dung can help save planet Card business has really 
dung good - Daily Post North WalesExcerpt: The company makes its products at 
the Twll Golau Papermill in Aberllefenni Slate Quarry using sustainable fuel 
and materials. Every sheet of paper is made from recycled materials, including 
sheep dung, waste paper and discarded rags, using processes designed to affect 
the natural environment as little as possible. [.] Katie 16, from Tal-y-Bont, 
Conwy, was appointed to help spread the word on how Wales can reduce its carbon 
footprint and is urging other North Wales businesses to follow Creative Paper 
Wales' example and adopt innovative approaches to the design and manufacture of 
products and the delivery of services.  

  Lord Christopher Monckton: 'Companies could be sued over climate change' 
Excerpt: The alarmist faction knows that, if it were to bring a case against a 
corporation whose executives were not minded merely to believe in the extremist 
presentation of "global warming" just because it is temporarily in fashion, 
they would lose. The case of Dimmock v. Secretaries of State for Education and 
for the Environment in the UK in 2007 was a very clear warning. The UK 
Government threw all of the resources of the taxpayer and of the Meteorological 
Office at the case, attempting to defend Al Gore's sci-fi comedy horror movie 
against the plaintiff's allegation that it was serially and seriously 
inaccurate. The Government failed and was humiliated. The judge, having heard 
both sides, said bluntly of Al Gore, and particularly of his unscientific 
allegation that sea level was about to rise by 20 feet, that "the Armageddon 
scenario that he depicts is not based on any scientific view". A few more 
judgments like that and the "global warming" fantasy would rapidly collapse. 
End of scare.  

  OOPS, We Forgot Siberia! (M4GW) - Weather Stations in Coldest parts No Longer 
Reporting 

  Excerpt: The thing that these skewed chart never take into account is that 
when the Soviet Union fell in 1990 the number of reporting weather stations 
went form a high of 15,000 in 1970 to 5,000 in 2000. This takes some of the 
coldest places on the planet out of the equation like Siberia. # #   

  Related Links:   

  UN Data shows 'Warming has Stopped!' - Climate Fears Called 'Hogwash' - 
'Global Carbon Tax' Urged - December 3, 2008   

  'Planet Has Cooled Since Bush Took Office' & Global Warming Theory has 
'failed consistently and dramatically' - November 20, 2008   

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