[geocentrism] Re: Evolution

  • From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:49:00 -0800


As you are discovering, most of us here cut our teeth on the creation/evolution debate and are more than capable of defending our position. This is why I had no reservations about Professor Dawkins joining us. Jack, James, Martin and Philip have all provided fine responses to your claims. Martin's postings have been of an exceptionally high standard, in my opinion, even for him!

You have not indicated any response from Professor Dawkins to your e-mail, but I expect that he will decline the invitation. This is a pity, because as well as pleasing the masses with assembly-line rhetoric (which he is good at, I'll admit), he ought to spend some time addressing those who are ready, willing and able to both defend their own position and attack his. Otherwise he becomes a bit like someone who professes to be a chess champion, but who never plays anyone but those with only a passing interest or ability in the game.

I have had communication in the past with Dr Kurt Wise, and with Dr Steve Austen, and I can personally vouch for the fact that they are exceptionally knowledgeable in their fields and extremely helpful and polite. It would be good to get all three of them (ie, including Dr Richard Dawkins) together here, but I feel that the one who would dismiss the idea is, as always, the evolutionist.

Anyway, I'll leave you to battle on. Don't you just wonder what dentists evolved from? T-Rex perhaps?


-----Original Message-----
From: paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:38:01 +0000 (GMT)

Martin S
Well I guess you're awake and firing on all cylinders!
That's quite an article, and no doubt well above my head but perhaps if I print it out and take it with me to the dentist it will take my mind off other matters!!!

Paul D

----- Original Message ----
From: Martin G. Selbrede <mselbrede@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, 19 September, 2007 6:18:29 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Evolution

On Sep 19, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Paul Deema wrote:

Regarding Michael Behe and his well worn mousetrap, I've read a number of discussions of his theories and why, after significant investigation (he did rather throw a spanner into the works after all) these theories have been largely discounted. The blood clotting cascade was very interesting. One of those aforementioned investigations looked into this function and to this blundering amateur, a very good case was made for an alternative explanation for its origin which falsified the irreducible complexity argument. Sadly I can't recall who this was and a search for such info -- along with similar searches for every other thing I can't remember -- would exhaust my remaining allotment of time.

Not so fast there, Paul.  The shoe is on the other foot entirely regarding blood clotting, and the folks with the red faces are the evolutionists who tried to "debunk" Behe with ill-considered hearsay technobabble that blew up in their faces while they were posturing as superior critics to the creationist. See this link:


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