Dear Paul, If you think that the article about abiogenesis is merely an anecdote then you clearly have no idea what evolution is about. If you want more information about what creationists say about the 2nd L. O. T. check out this site http://www.icr.org/article/86/ its not too long an article. otherwise I'm not really interested in perusing the subject any further with you. You may think this is a cop-out but if you can't see just how serious these problems are then there is little point in continuing. Don't worry about it you are in the same boat as pretty much all evolutionists. Occasionally we meet one who thinks rationally and objectively, I was once an evolutionist and I re-engaged my brain. Regards Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Deema To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:59 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Evolution Jack L I've read the first three of your files. These are just anecdotes and contain nothing of significance.