[geocentrism] Re: Calendar query
- From: "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:54:43 +0100 (BST)
Robert,
Yours was a fine posting, and you obviously took time
and trouble to prepare it. However, the point you make
about people forming splinter groups because they have
different interpretations of this Scripture or that
Scripture, would not arise to anything like the extent
it does if the Scriptures were interpreted literally
in the first instance.
There is reasoning to be done from the Scriptures,
which is how we all arrived at the fact that the Bible
tells us that the World does not rotate on an "axis,"
but we arrived at that conclusion by taking the
Scriptures we were studying literally (Jos., Hab.,
etc.)
In my opinion, therefore, Allen's position on this is
the correct one.
I understand that you are happy with the
interpretation you have found, but would you consider
the possibility of another solution? IF not, then fair
enough, but it would be better for the forum as a
whole if we can agree on issues like this one.
Yours in Christ,
Neville.
--- Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Robert,
>
> All your arguments and comments are predicated on
> the fact that the word of GOD doesn?t mean what it
> plainly says. You have not proved that or anything.
> You have not addressed any scriptures I have shown;
> you have only showed people how to avoid them. The
> link that you provided does the same thing. The
> reason the word of God states 40 days and 40 nights
> is the same reason it states three days and three
> nights, because that is the absolute truth of the
> matter not some figure of speech. "let God be true
> but every man a liar." JESUS said Mathew 12:40. "For
> as Jonah was three days and three nights in the
> belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be
> "three days and three nights in the heart of the
> earth.
>
> You say that three days and nights are not three
> days and nights; that makes you a liar. If not,
> prove it; where is your scripture, not your
> "theory", where is your proof? I challenged you to
> point out if I had not spoken as the articles of
> God; you did not. Your methodology and logic are not
> found anywhere in the scripture; it is merely empty
> words and theories, the invention of liars, with no
> scripture to back any of it up. I have shown you
> what the scripture says and demonstrated from
> scripture that that is what it means. Where is your
> scripture? Where is your proof? I am afraid it is
> you on whom the burden of proof rest. Only scripture
> proves; not your personally theories, they don?t
> count. You have not spoken the truth, however, no
> one here owes me homage or anything, I don?t care if
> any one is convinced by me or not. The power is in
> the word of God not in you or me. What you believe
> is your problem not mine. I do not dislike you or
> any one else so I will leave you here
> with
> this final warning, yet it is not from me, it comes
> from God himself.
>
> 2 Timothy 3:5. having a [form of godliness] but
> [denying its power]. And from such people turn away!
>
> Romans 1:16. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of
> Christ, for [it is the power of God] to salvation
> for everyone who believes.
>
> Revelation 22:18. For I testify to everyone who
> hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If
> anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the
> plagues that are written in this book;
>
> and if anyone takes away from the words of the
> book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part
> from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from
> the things which are written in this book.
>
> 2Timothy 4: 3. For the time will come when they will
> not endure sound doctrine, but according to their
> own desires, because they have itching ears, they
> will heap up for themselves teachers; 4. and they
> will turn their ears away from the truth, and be
> turned aside to fables.
>
>
> 2Thessalonians2:10. and with all unrighteous
> deception among those who perish, because they did
> not receive the love of the truth, that they might
> be saved. 11. And for this reason God will send them
> strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
> 12. that they all may be condemned who did not
> believe the truth but had pleasure in
> unrighteousness.
> Allen
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