[geocentrism] Re: 666
- From: "Martin G. Selbrede" <mselbrede@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 16:20:17 -0500
On May 22, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Allen Daves wrote:
Granted one can read these in various ways however , again you are
interjecting how you read it not what is read....He did not say to
the anointing he states till messiah the prince
I'm injecting nothing, Allen. "Messiach" means "the one who has been
anointed." Jesus isn't the Messiach until He is anointed, and His
anointing didn't occur at His birth. The promise is of the coming of
one who IS anointed, not someone who is going to be anointed.
Messiach has no future transitive stem in the word: it expresses a
completed fact of anointing. While Jesus may well have been "born
King of the Jews," this was His by right, having no bearing on
anointing. Hence, the terms "Prince" (Hebrew: rosh") and "Anointed
One" (Messiach) are kept separate in the text. His messiah-hood is
mentioned first, his prince-hood second, because the former is the
critical, primary thing, the latter is a consequence of the former.
There's no Anointed One without an anointing occurring first. Until
then, he's the "Unanointed One," or the "Yet-To-Be-Anointed One,"
which are completely different Hebrew terms from Messiach. David
wasn't an Anointed One until Samuel poured oil over his head. That
was the defining act of God, and it was the defining act that
constituted Jesus as "christos" ("the anointed one," the meaning of
"christos" which is the Greek translation of "Messiach").
In short: the term "unto the coming of an Anointed One, the Prince"
cannot possibly refer to the birth of Jesus, because He wasn't yet
anointed, and therefore was not "messiach" but "un-messiach." He
enters His office as Messiach at the appointed time, at His baptism.
Neither is He a priest until He has something wherewith to offer, as
Hebrews 5 makes clear: in fact, His fitness to be a priest is
predicated on His suffering, to be like unto us, except without sin.
Martin
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