*From*: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>*To*: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx*Date*: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:27:45 +0000 (GMT)

Neville J May I advance a point or two in defence of my position? As I remarked in another post to Allen D, all the planets, asteroids and moons of the Solar System have their own unique axes of rotation and their planes of revolution with their attendant poles. Many of these bodies are observable with sufficient definition to permit fairly precise numbers to be assigned to these axes and planes. This permits us to determine what would be the appearance of the stars and their motions as viewed from the perspective of these various bodies. The only model which permits all of these views to be accurate representations of reality is if the stars are stationary. If however you can demonstrate to me that -- for instance -- our view of the stars (including nightly star trails), our view of Uranus, Uranus' view of Earth and Uranus' view of the stars (including nightly star trails) can all coexist then I'd be obliged to rethink my position. Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, 20 November, 2007 11:53:17 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: 2 Axes of rotation - drawing Paul, Mars is scientifically irrelevant to this debate. (And the stars being stationary is most definitely not the only model that works, as your time on this forum ought to have impressed upon you by now.) Neville www.GeocentricUniverse.com -----Original Message----- From: paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:01:21 +0000 (GMT) Allen D ... Mars? (...and all the rest!) Well it would demonstrate that what I am saying is possible and in fact is the norm while you won't address it. You see how difficult it becomes? The stars are stationary -- it's the only model that works. This allows ALL the planets to rotate on their axes pointing in their chosen direction -- all different. And they all orbit the Sun on their preferred ecliptic inclinations. You have agreed with me that Mars at least does -- I didn't ask about others, no need to complicate things if one is addressing just one. ... Paul D. Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. www.yahoo7.com.au/worldsbestemail

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