Regner hasn't denied it yet and why don't you check the astronomy books etc. I had an old one but I chucked it out a few weeks ago! Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Deema To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:35 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: 2 Axes of rotation - drawing Jack L Well you see Jack -- I only have Allen's word for this -- that is that they are the same -- and my view differs from his. Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, 20 November, 2007 7:25:18 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: 2 Axes of rotation - drawing This is classed as watching what is going on Paul! If HC say the star trails are the same are you saying you have cracked their problem for them? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Deema To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: 2 Axes of rotation - drawing Allen D In this <colour> <> Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, 20 November, 2007 6:03:11 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: 2 Axes of rotation - drawing Blue Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Allen D The camera is NAILED to the plank.OK It does NOT spin. OK The plank slides around the Sun on the plane of the ecliptic. The camera points to the ecliptic pole. In one year the camera will have moved radially through 360 deg.YES Pictures taken whenever you feel the need to bleed your hydraulic system when overlaid WILL show an annual set of concentric star trails composed of randomly spaced dots and centred on the ecliptic pole. that set of concentric star trails will not appear the same as the nightly.......that is the point!..<Isn't that just what I've been trying to get through to you for months!>...if they do not appear the same as the nightly then HC is untennable becuse what we observe in nature are identical nightly and annual..<I've asked elswhere but I'll ask it again -- Just how did you go about trying to show this???>...What don't you understand? What don't you understand? Paul D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now.