My take is that you don't *put* the coins in the caches. You put the cache ID and the direction point S,N E W ect in the cache on a sticker or a piece of paper, this info is recorded on a coin that you take out of you pocket and send back to the site as a verification that you actually been to the site. (the special code words) Still, ya cant put the code words on a virtual cache to record for the log. Ya cant even log the cache without knowing the # and direction point. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Paul Konopacki Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:58 PM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoSTL] Re: www.geogamer.com One hole in the concept is that they won't be able to place their coins at virtual and locationless and benchmark caches. That's a growing chunk of the cache population. And putting their coins in a cache on the top of Mt. Everest isn't going to generate them much money. My fear is that the marketing scheme to circulate their coins is going to produce caches that are easy to find and very close to each other. The romance of exploration and becoming one with nature takes a backseat to free enterprise. JimSGreene@xxxxxxx wrote: K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid)