- Sometimes those no finds can trick you into not looking as good as you should. The other day I did one that had 3 no finds in a row (including roelsch). I gave it a quick look figuring it was not there. There people started finding it again. I'm sure I would have looked much longer if there had not been 3 no finds right before me. Jim Bensman "Nature Bats Last" > -----Original Message----- > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bernie > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:27 PM > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: upside down and no finds. > > - > Unfortunately so many of us will not log the NO FINDS. By not logging > the NO FINDS you are doing a disservice to the rest of the caching > community, seekers and hiders alike. If I approach a cache where the > last 2 or 3 are NO FINDS, I certainly would handle that cache > differently. It really helps the cache placer to keep an eye out for any > problems without actually going to the cache. If you think it is such a > terrible thing to have a NO FIND in the logs, at least write a note. > Let's help each other out. Bernie > > Timothy Hunt wrote: > > >- > >Well, I've had a two people log "no-finds" and one person contact me > >directly for help with this. Discussion with 2 of those 3 has enabled > >me to understand how what I thought were unambiguous, if obfuscated, > directions > >were actually still ambiguous. I honestly didn't realise that the > >directions could be interpreted differently from the way I interpreted > them. > > > >However, no-one until this weekend had done anything to let me know > >they'd had trouble finding it, since I had altered the directions from > what > >I knew to be ambiguous, to be what I thought to be unambiguous. WIth the > >recent wet weather, I thought that people hadn't gone looking for this > cache. > > > >Given my "positive reports of non-finding" rather than simply "no reports > >of finding", I have realised the issue, and made the directions more > direct. > >And I do mean more direct. > > > >So, to those who tried and failed, I apologise that I made it too hard. > >I'm still new at placing caches, and still trying to balance between > making > >them challenging, and putting a great big neon arrow that says "look > here" > > > >I must admit, though, I'm surprised that some of the others who > reportedly > >searched and failed to find didn't contact me, especially as it's obvious > >from the number of caches I've placed and found that I'm still pretty new > >at this. > > > >So, if anyone has any suggestions for making descriptions clear but > >not so completely obvious that it takes just a minute to find, I'd be > >grateful. > > > >Timothy > > > ************************************************************************** > ** > > Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com > > Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching > > Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html > > > ************************************************************************** > ** > >To unsubscribe from this list: > > send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in > the Subject field > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************** > ** > Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com > Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching > Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html > > ************************************************************************** > ** > To unsubscribe from this list: > send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in > the Subject field > > **************************************************************************** Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html **************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list: send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field