I agree with Mike Griffin. Give Chris one more chance under the supervision of his dad. If that doesn't work out then ban him from the newsgroup. I don't feel, however, we should ban him from SLAGA altogether. He hasn't really done anything that bad except annoy a few adults in the newsgroup. Let's face it--it's a teen's job to annoy adults. :) From Mike's description, he's much better in person than his internet personna would indicate. MrB