I thought I would get to the bottom of this mystery and besides I'm a buttinski in my children's lives, so I called him and asked him what the heck he was doing that had him the topic of conversation for so long. :) He also logged my Christmas party that has been archived for years! He has a personal coin that he is logging in and out of all the caches he has found to get an idea of his mileage. My response was "but why in archived caches??" he said "cos they are caches I have done/been to." Oh btw to answer the question to St. Charles #2..... yes he lives close enough to be able to see it from his home. lol The humorous thing I see here is he didn't want to go to all the trouble to re log all of his caches to get lildevels name off of his account, but he will do it for a coin. hmmmm some times I worry about him. Anyway, thats the scoop. elkie (pntballs mom) Life is way to short to take serious. --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.