This has always concerned me. The fact that anyone can list a cache or even worse, raid caches by using the website. Luckily we have not ran into that problem here. In Michigan there was a problem with some teens using the website and then stealing ammo boxes. I looked at the cache that geo-johnson complained about and it looked like a legitimate mistake. He probably set a waypoint for where he parked and another for the cache. He then transposed the coords. He fixed it and admits it was his error. That one was in Minnesota. Where are the ones mentioned in St. Louis? The conversation kind of veers from this cache to, "I once knew of this cache..." Then there is someone saying, "I'll never seek after their caches!" Who is they?? I'm starting to think "They" is "Snuffy" :-) Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: [GeoStL] not good press for st. louis - i am starting to narrow in on who was "joking" with wadcutter but not sure of the caches mentioned yet.. any hints?? gln http://opentopic.groundspeak.com/0/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1750973553&f=3000917383&m=5810919345&r=5580915445#5580915445 in the forums... "The 1 cache that was listed by his buddy in the game has been archived. Several people logged the coords were off by several hundred feet. We found it only by a detailed search and we also noticed it was off by a couple of hundred feet. I thought it might have been common error and the +/- factor between a couple of different units. But then the hint took the person in a different direction too. Not knowing the people I again gave them the benefit of the doubt, figuring some people couldn't tell which way was north with a gps, compass, road map, and the north star labled for them. Some people just don't have a sense of direction. It wasn't until I ran into the other part of the team that he admitted they knew the directions were off and it was part of their private game. The next day or 2 they archived that cache. I think I've figured out at least 1 other they've done the same with just from reading the notes and knowing the general location. When the weather clears enough I'm going to give it a go and if it is another similiar cache I'll definitely be posting it as a request to archive. And I'll let Groundspeak know. They are/were in the general area of St Louis. " ------------------ I have found nearly every cache in this area and I know of NO cache in the St. Louis, Mo area that fits this description in the last two years. If you email me the name of the cache I will check it out. We try to maintain high quality caches of all skill levels in the area. If ANYONE hears of a cache that is not on the up & up, PLEASE contact US. glenn nash st. louis area geocachers assn. www.GeoStl.com .:~*~:.:~*~:.:~*~:.:~*~:. Glenn St. Louis, Mo **************************************************************************** Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=ocaching The SLAGA E-store is closed for image repairs...... ****************************************************************************