[GeoStL] Re: geocaching.com & virtuals

  • From: "Laura D" <festive@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:40:32 -0500

This is exactly why I haven't placed a cache yet.  I am afraid that no
matter how hard I try to make it interesting, you guys will consider it
"lame".  I have been trying for more than a year now to come up with a great
idea, and just about the time I think I have, I read someone saying how
un-original it is.

Please keep in mind that different people enjoy geocaching for different
reasons.  Personally, I like a nice easy cache with McDonalds (or other)
toys in it.  I would hate to think that something I went out and purchased
specifically to put into a cache ends up being considered "trash".  Sorry,
but just because you control what is in a cache does not guarantee that all
people are happy with it.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike Griffin
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:56 PM
  To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [GeoStL] Re: geocaching.com & virtuals

  There is a lot of truth in this.. I think that for the most part, we are
getting a little burned out on the ordinary. What is the difference between
a micro in a small city park that has a clever hide and hiking 10 miles to
find a tupperware container with a logbook and pencil?

  It weighs about the same. I like micros for the purpose they serve and I
don't feel they degredate the sport. However, any toss it and mark it type
caches are really lame. I have a few micros that bring people to really nice
areas. Such as the Arboretum at the University of Florida. Canes Cache. I
also have one that really is lame and it is named "Fun 4 Some". Simply
because it is a small multi that is in an obvious place.

  I set out a cache where I don't want you to trade and stocked it with
really good stuff. The problem is, you have to solve a murder mystery before
you can find it. I am tired of placing a traditional cache with good stuff,
giving the coords out and 3 months later it is full of rubber balls and
McDonald toys. Not a very good thing for me or anyone who finds it later. So
I have decided that my new caches will involve a few micros as waypoints
that will need some type of logic to figure out the final cache and items in
that final cache will NOT be traded for. I want it to be a typical "you take
one Item and I will restock it" cache. That way, I control what is in the
cache and people are happy with it.

  PA even took something from the Murder Mystery cache... :-)

  I think that we can get to the point where we will over saturate with
carpet bombed micros and eventually it will just be unappealing to those who
prefer nice caches. I like long hikes in the Winter to do just one cache. I
don't mind that. I do mind a long hike in the Winter to find a cache that
has a pencil and log book only. I do them, but I would rather see something
nice done with them.

  Anyhow, I want to focus more on building the sport side of GPS navigation.
I think there is something there and our March event will showcase that.

  Having rambled on here.... sigh... I am going caching..


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: dana cook
    To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:54 PM
    Subject: [GeoStL] Re: geocaching.com & virtuals

    I wasn't thinking of one particular cache, nor am I implying that all
caches are tupperware containers full of trash. I guess my point is that I
have seen a real decline in the quality of caches since I began geocaching
in Jan. 2002. I don't trade anymore because the items that I now find in
caches are rarely worth trading for. But that I have come to accept.

    What disappoints me most is the number of caches out there that seem to
have been placed just for the sake of placing a cache. When I first began
geocaching in Arizona caches were placed in areas that had some appeal, such
as an overlooked historical area, or near a scenic view, or an
off-the-beaten-path trail. It was evident that the cache owner wanted to
bring a person to the area for an obvious reason. Nowadays I find myself
asking, "Why was I brought here?"

     Please understand these are just my thoughts; not an attempt to bash
our beloved sport or any of its players. When I saw that expression "junky
tupperware full of trash" (or whatever it was) I just couldn't help but

    RE: your discussion point on micros. Well I won't even go there :-)!!


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