[GeoStL] Re: geocaching.com & virtuals
- From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:17:49 -0500
How wide is my mouth? I meant --- University of Miami.. Geezzz.. Sure glad the
professor doesn't read this...
(now taking my foot back out)
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Griffin
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:55 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: geocaching.com & virtuals
There is a lot of truth in this.. I think that for the most part, we are
getting a little burned out on the ordinary. What is the difference between a
micro in a small city park that has a clever hide and hiking 10 miles to find a
tupperware container with a logbook and pencil?
It weighs about the same. I like micros for the purpose they serve and I
don't feel they degredate the sport. However, any toss it and mark it type
caches are really lame. I have a few micros that bring people to really nice
areas. Such as the Arboretum at the University of Florida. Canes Cache. I also
have one that really is lame and it is named "Fun 4 Some". Simply because it is
a small multi that is in an obvious place.
I set out a cache where I don't want you to trade and stocked it with really
good stuff. The problem is, you have to solve a murder mystery before you can
find it. I am tired of placing a traditional cache with good stuff, giving the
coords out and 3 months later it is full of rubber balls and McDonald toys. Not
a very good thing for me or anyone who finds it later. So I have decided that
my new caches will involve a few micros as waypoints that will need some type
of logic to figure out the final cache and items in that final cache will NOT
be traded for. I want it to be a typical "you take one Item and I will restock
it" cache. That way, I control what is in the cache and people are happy with
it.
PA even took something from the Murder Mystery cache... :-)
I think that we can get to the point where we will over saturate with carpet
bombed micros and eventually it will just be unappealing to those who prefer
nice caches. I like long hikes in the Winter to do just one cache. I don't mind
that. I do mind a long hike in the Winter to find a cache that has a pencil and
log book only. I do them, but I would rather see something nice done with them.
Anyhow, I want to focus more on building the sport side of GPS navigation. I
think there is something there and our March event will showcase that.
Having rambled on here.... sigh... I am going caching..
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: dana cook
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:54 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: geocaching.com & virtuals
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I wasn't thinking of one particular cache, nor am I implying that all
caches are tupperware containers full of trash. I guess my point is that I have
seen a real decline in the quality of caches since I began geocaching in Jan.
2002. I don't trade anymore because the items that I now find in caches are
rarely worth trading for. But that I have come to accept.
What disappoints me most is the number of caches out there that seem to
have been placed just for the sake of placing a cache. When I first began
geocaching in Arizona caches were placed in areas that had some appeal, such as
an overlooked historical area, or near a scenic view, or an off-the-beaten-path
trail. It was evident that the cache owner wanted to bring a person to the area
for an obvious reason. Nowadays I find myself asking, "Why was I brought here?"
Please understand these are just my thoughts; not an attempt to bash our
beloved sport or any of its players. When I saw that expression "junky
tupperware full of trash" (or whatever it was) I just couldn't help but comment.
RE: your discussion point on micros. Well I won't even go there :-)!!
Dana
>From: Glenn
>Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [GeoStL] Re: geocaching.com & virtuals
>Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:29:01 -0500
>
>-
>Good discussion point here...
>
>And what cache would this be from?? Not much can be done about such
>things is no one knows where they are. The only way the situation
>can be changed is to let someone know. The whole system of
>maintaining quality caches depends on all the cachers that are out
>looking for caches. If something needs fixin, do a little fixing. A
>lot of folks do this already and carry supplies with them for about
>every situation. If there are containers full of trash, it is
>obvious that not everyone takes the idea of continual cache
>maintenances seriously.
>
>
>Glenn
>
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