[GeoStL] Re: discussion point
- From: Dave Keiser <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 20:37:15 -0500
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Hm, I probably get more into travel bugs than bruce does, but I agree.
You could also argue that placing a cache would be worth 2 or 3 times
a simple find because there's much more work involved in creating it
and maintaining it. (there isn't much extra work involved in moving a
travel bug, etc.)
All in all, the 'formula' seems too complex. IMHO it's best to simple
keep it simple and use the number that geocaching.com uses as the
'total' finds.
However, alternatively, you could ask for maybe a separate listing of
benchmark finders and rank on that. That wouldn't be too hard to
set-up, I'd guess. or, probably tougher to set up, a stat list that
would allow the user to click a column header to sort on each specific
category. So, if you wanted to see the benchmark leaders, you'd click
on benchmarks, if you wanted to see those who've placed the most
caches, you'd click on that, etc.
All in all, though, as long as it's what geocaching.com counts, the
main stat list as it is will be the one most of us care about (if at
all).
Dave (fullquiver)
On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 07:16 PM, Bruce S wrote:
> -
>
> I personally would disagree. I could care less about travel bugs. In
> general unless the travel bug has a note saying where it is going and
> I can
> help it... it stays in the cache. There is no "sport" in travel
> bugs... if
> they are there they are there.
>
>> From: Roger Barnes <rogbarn@xxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [GeoStL] discussion point
>> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 18:44:43 -0500
>>
>> -
>> I would like to present a suggestion.
>>
>> I love the stats page on the SLAGA website. I think whoever works on
>> it
>> is a big asset to our group. Some people don't realize that the
>> geocaching pages change every now and then and it requires the
>> software
>> that creates our stat page to be changed to accommodate the changes.
>> In
>> short, it is not a glamour job. All that to say thanks for the page
>> but
>> I think it could be better and I'd like to make some suggestions.
>>
>> In general, here is my philosophy:
>>
>> 1. If it appears on the geocaching stats page, it should appear on our
>> stats page. It may be part of a column, such as all cache finds are
>> totaled into the finds columns. But, in general, everything should
>> show
>> up there somehow. The specifics can be discussed and I will offer
>> mine
>> below.
>>
>> 2. The number of columns should be fairly small. We now have 4
>> columns
>> and I don't think we should have too many more. Again, the specifics
>> can be a subject for discussion.
>>
>> 3. The last column should be a total of all the numbers on the
>> geocaching page. And, the list should be ranked based on this column.
>> I feel pretty strongly about this one, but it certainly should be
>> discussed before anything is done.
>>
>> Now, for specifics, here is my suggestion:
>>
>> Columns:
>> 1. Cache Finds (as now)
>> 2. Cache Hides (as now)
>> 3. Benchmark finds (as now)
>> 4. Travel bug & geocoin finds
>> 5. Travel bug & geocoin hides
>> 6. Total
>>
>> And rank by the total.
>>
>> And a comment:
>> I want everyone to realize that ranking by the total will improve my
>> standing because of my high number of benchmark finds. So, yes it
>> improves my ranking but I think it helps everyone. If you think about
>> finding caches, I think everyone will agree that there can be a wide
>> range of finds, from the very easy, multiple in a day ones to Myotis'
>> 100 that takes at least two days by itself. So the total is a poor
>> measure of anything. A total column probably means a little bit less,
>> but it also gives visibility to all of the facets of geocaching as
>> provided on the geocaching stats page. As a growing group in which
>> various members may have interest in some parts and not other parts,
>> it
>> helps pull everyone together.
>>
>> Please continue the discussion.
>>
>> Roger
>>
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