Cindy, I did check some of his other finds, and they looked OK. Somehow, I don't think he is a fraud, but I sure wish he'd sign his logs. I have sent him another email and explained things to him. Wish I could talk to the guy. Bernie -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Spurr Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:57 AM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: What to do Bernie -- did you look at any of his other finds? Is this cacher using this "couldn't sign log excuse" for a lot of them? If not, maybe he is truly forgetting or losing his writing instrument. If you see this in a lot of his other "finds", then I agree with what has been said before, drop a friendly email and see if you can guide them into doing it the right way. I know it's a game, but all games have rule. All cache rules are different from one to another, but the rules are there for a reason. If you must sign the log or "get into the cache" in order to receive credit then that is different. (And I just saw the safecracker cache last night and can't wait to do this one). PS: I always carry 2 or more pens at any given time. But I think that's the writer in me more so than the cacher in me ;-) But if you ever need to borrower one..... Cindy J. Spurr Freelance Writer (757) 432-1423 Web site: www.creativeace.com Alt email: cindys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ---- From: Bernie <happykraut@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:34:30 AM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: What to do Arlene, the first time I deleted his log and then he came back stating that he had no pen. He did describe things correctly. I let him relog. He has 47 finds. Bernie -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of thejones crew Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:08 AM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: What to do Did he have a reason for not signing? "Log too wet", "my pen ran out of ink", or something like that? How about making them tell some sort of detail about the cache...what color was the container? How was it secured in its hiding place? I think I would right a note to them saying from now on sign the log or it WILL be deleted. We forgot our pen a couple times, BUT each time I sent an email to the owner teeling as many details as I could about the cache. Is this a new cacher, or an oldie? Maybe they don't know the 'rules' of the game. Arlene From: happykraut@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] What to do Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:37:16 -0600 I need some feedback on this one. There is a cacher who states in his logs "Did not sign log" , but claims it as a find. He has done this to three of my caches. What should I do? Delete or ignore. Bernie Make distant family not so distant with Windows VistaR + Windows LiveT. Start now! <http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/keepintouch.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGL M_CPC_VideoChat_distantfamily_012008>