Don't think anything negative was said about the policy. We just expressed some concerns. Saw John yesterday at lunch and we discussed the policy and the work increase based upon the caches that will be adopted. If all caches stay as they are, he will have 17 to deal with instead of 7. No big deal. John has bent over backwards for us and I thanked him at lunch yesterday for being so supportive of Geocaching. I only wished we could have had some input into the policy but, we can work with it. Teresa is absolutely right about the number of caches at Weldon Spring and Busch. We are very fortunate. Keep in mind that the vast majority of those caches are along the Hamburg trail and do not interfere with fish, forest and wildlife resources. Also, it doesn't interfere with other users. I think this is a good thing. I would also like to add that if anyone has caches here, get your paperwork done and turned in within the next week. John expects us to comply and we should, Mike ________________________________ From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of GC-RGS Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:23 AM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Weldon Spring Caches Everyone should be careful what they say about the new MDC caching policy. Teresa reads the freelist. See her comments below: From Teresa Kight - MDC Recreation Specialist April 22, 2009 The limit of caches per person is to provide opportunity for more than just one person to place a cache on an area, however there will also be limits to how many total caches a manager can or will allow on an area - this is the part left to the manager's discretion. Weldon Spring just happens to have more than the typical number of requests to place a cache, so there are a lot there. I am not aware of a similar situation on any other area. So it's not that we are setting up the managers to choose between letting 2 people have 50 caches each, or 50 people have 2 caches each. There won't be too many areas where that many caches would be allowed in the first place; the Busch/Weldon Spring areas just seem to be the exception. The geocaching policy is more about recognizing other uses and management activities occurring on Conservation Areas, and being able to limit the total number of caches so as not to impact the fish, forest and wildlife resources or interfere with other area uses or users. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Tollefson <mailto:mbtoll@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: lwatermann@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Weldon Spring Caches Here's what I am going to do. I am going to put these 3 on one permit: Trails to Rails (GC16TKR) Along the Hamburg Trail (GC16TMX) Turnout (GC16TNB) That puts these 2 up for adoption: Hamburg Mile Marker (GC16TN4) Should Have Been An Ammo Box (GC16TNE) Mike ________________________________ From: Edward Turner <n0wnv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:23:16 AM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Weldon Spring Caches - Mike (Tolleybrew), Suggestion, put whatever caches you want to adopt out on here and I am sure someone will step up to help on this because we all want to see the caches to pretty well stay in the St. Louis area up and running. Even though MDC has come up with new rules for caching. I am helping Bernie on 3 of his so post them and see what happens. Ed NØWNV **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes to your account, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw Missouri Geocaching land use policies --> www.MoCache.net <http://www.mocache.net/> MoGeo Forums -->http://mogeo.ipbhost.com/index.php