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I would think that the proper place to editorialize about the likes or
dislikes of a particular cache would be in the logs. If you don't like
it, then say so and why so the owner gets the idea. If it is great,
then say so, so the owner gets positive feedback. Also, if the next guy
comes along and reads those, they can decide whether they want to do it
or not based on what the logs may say. You don't have to belong to an
organization or be affiliated with anything to do that. Jim Bensman wrote: **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw- Dan, I can somewhat understand your point of view, but I look at it a bit differently. One problem is you cannot filter out lame/walmart lamppost caches. The only way to find out is to go do it (and if you are there, you just do it). I've got nothing against easy caches and I don't mind an occasional lame cache. It is much more fun to do an easy cache in an interesting location. Yesterday, I did the eagle has landed. I drove to within 10 feet of it and it took me 30 seconds to find it. But many times you can see 50-100 eagles in the spot. I just wish people would take the time to find an interesting location like the eagle spot instead of putting them in a walmart parking lot. My hope is we can exert peer pressure that quality is more important than quantity. Let's encourage people to take the time to find an interesting spot instead of another lamppost. Or make it interesting and challenging (RGS's guard rail cache and a guard rail cache we found in Evansville were a blast to do). I like the overall quality of caches in our area and want to keep it that way. For the number hounds, how about we establish a lamppost cache for them and let them log it over and over again? Once you have seen a lamppost or walmart, you've seen them all. What's the difference in finding the same one over and over again and finding a different lamppost? Today I was in a meeting in Benton IL. After the meeting I drove a couple of miles to a cache. It was clearly on private property and nothing was on the cache page about permission. The hint and GPS where directing me to go into the bushes by a sign and house. Without knowing if there was permission, I did not feel comfortable going onto private property in their bushes. So I did not. This was not fun. It was a waste of my time. We all have lots of fun doing this. So in exchange for the fun we get from others work (Let me thank Glenn again), I think we should pay these people back by taking the time to do a quality cache. I think we owe it to other cachers to not place them in a situation where they could get arrested or in bad situations like by playgrounds. If we place a cache on private property we need to get permission and let people know on the cache page that permission has been granted. I bet the vast majority of lamppost caches do not have permission. You said you, "enjoy some caches MORE than other caches." What I am hoping for is we can encourage people to do higher quality and more fun caches. Let's all work to keep high quality caches in the area. Jim Bensman "Nature Bats Last" ________________________________________ From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Henke Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 11:12 PM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Was Walmart Now Flying Toads I agree totally ...there is room in this sport (obsession) for all kinds of caches. If you have a thing about lamppost caches, guard rail caches or any other kind of cache ...YOU DON"T HAVE TO DO IT!!!!....There are no caching police out there twisting your arm to make you do any cache. One of the truly great things about caching is that there is literally something for EVERYONE. I personally will do any cache that comes my way and I enjoy them all. I enjoy some caches MORE than other caches but I do any and all of them. This includes lamp post, guard rail and yes even playground caches. I personally enjoy a good multi or puzzle cache but due to the fact I live so far away from most of them it is hard to drive 90 miles to complete a single cache or even 2 or 3 but I have done it as well. It is MY choice of how I want to spend my time and I say if you don't like a type of cache then don't do it but give the rest of us a chance to decide for ourselves. That is why we no longer have virtual or locationless caches because someone decided that they weren't good for OUR sport and got rid of them and now NONE of us get to decide if they are worth doing or not. There were some fantastic caches in both categories but now there are no new ones to judge. All I can say is be careful what you wish for you might get it and then there is no turning back. (Dan now jumps off his soapbox and goes back to reality) Just my 2 cents worth Dan (Thunder_Monk) **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw |