[GeoStL] Re: Was Walmart Now Flying Toads

  • From: Cindy Spurr <leeharper13@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:48:13 -0800 (PST)

Did search and couldn't find archive.  What's the waypoint?  Sounds really 
interesting so far?
 
Cindy J. Spurr
Freelance Writer
(757) 432-1423
Web site: www.creativeace.com
Alt email: cindys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Griffin <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 11:42:33 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Was Walmart Now Flying Toads


Archived due to lack of interest. Every puzzle I have put out gets found by the 
puzzle enthusiasts then they taper off to few finds per year. I usually wait a 
year and archive them. More to be placed over the next few months.
 
Mike
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Cindy Spurr 
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:25 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Was Walmart Now Flying Toads


Mummy Cache?
 
Cindy J. Spurr
Freelance Writer
(757) 432-1423
Web site: www.creativeace.com
Alt email: cindys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 



----- Original Message ----
From: Dan C <dcrep_gc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 6:38:45 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Was Walmart Now Flying Toads

I just wanted to echo Stephen's comment.  As one of the finders of the Mummy in 
2007 (Stephen was another), I'd happily walk right by a lamp-post to get an 
interesting cache such as that one.  Not all new cachers are interested in 
numbers... some quite the opposite.

-Dan (dcrep)

> 
> Well said Mike. I am not into the numbers at all. I love puzzles like Mummy 
> and tricky caches like Need Gas. I relish a 2 or even one cache day if I had 
> to sweat or think to get it. It is all about what the individual is into. 
> Keep making your caches like you do, 32 finds is an indication of a cache 
> that requires some work. Kudos you!
> 
> Stephen
> 
> On Tuesday, January 08, 2008, at 03:03PM, "Michael Griffin" 
> <mike.griffin@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >I think we miss the point of the caches. It is not so some guy in a
> >wheelchair can't play, it is asking permission which is the basis of any
> >cache. It clearly states that permission MUST BE OBTAINED PRIOR to
> >placing any cache. If it is a hassle to get permission, we shouldn't
> >place one with the Oh Well attitude. We should do the homework and make
> >sure we obtain permission. 
> > 
> >However, I totally agree that SLAGA is not the enforcing agency on
> >caches. We are a social club and should not condemn or support any kind
> >of hides. Everything is personal preference. I don't like light poles
> >and guardrails, but I do them :-) I don't like McDonalds or Wal-Mart
> >caches no matter how they are placed, but I do them! :-) 
> > 
> >However, I don't like the fact that I could go to Jail because someone
> >was too lazy to ask permission before placing a cache. I recently, as
> >did HappyKraut, replaced all my permission forms for all caches at Busch
> >and Weldon Spring. During that process, it became very clear that all
> >the properties John Vogel manages do not have legal caches on them. He
> >knows this and has let us slide. How long before he decides enough is
> >enough and prohibits caching on all his managed lands. Permits are
> >helpful in the fact that it is a 2 way agreement. I would feel much
> >better doing a cache on private property where the owner has placed on
> >the cache page his permission from statement.
> > 
> >I will do caches that I don't necessary like because I too am a numbers
> >hound. I am NOT afraid to say I love numbers. Although I haven't logged
> >several of the caches I have done in the past 6 months, I like to watch
> >my numbers.
> > 
> >Ok, Last topic since this is about Geocaching and not food. Larry and
> >myself were talking about how the numbers have killed the muticaches and
> >puzzles. I use to make a puzzle cache run for 1 or 2 caches. Now, unless
> >I go alone, no one wants to do 1 or 2. Everyone wants to do 60 or 100 or
> >500 in a weekend. Only if someone has solved a puzzle down to the final
> >will someone do a difficult puzzle. 
> > 
> >Case and Point was the Mummy Cache. In 2 years, I had 32 finds. Here is
> >what is amazing - From Sept - Dec in 2005 I had 20 finders, in all of
> >2006 I had 6 finders and in 2007 until archived late October, I had 6
> >finders.
> > 
> >With the number of new cachers out there, most are getting their
> >training from the old timers that are teaching them it is all about
> >numbers. Stats, Light poles and Guardrails are the result of numbers.
> >Remember, I said I was a numbers hound, no hypocrisy, just observations.
> > 
> >Ok - I am really done. I am headed out here in Boston and going to grab
> >a few Guardrails and Light poles.
> >
> >Mike Griffin 
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >
> >From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JimSGreene@xxxxxxx
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:11 PM
> >To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Walmart light pole
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 1/8/2008 12:28:25 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> >junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> >
> > I think a good service SLAGA could provide is to have people who
> >can
> > tactfully contact cache placers who place problematic caches.
> >They could
> > work with them to fix the problem. I suspect that would be
> >better than some
> > of us less tactful people pointing out the problem in a cache
> >log.
> > 
> >
> >Jim,
> > I disagree with this statement, any problematic caches should be
> >reported to the local approver for them to handle. They are paid big
> >money to handle that sort of thing. 
> > As far as lamp post or easy caches, they serve a purpose too, they are
> >great for those with mobility issues, and people looking for some quick
> >finds. If placed according to guidelines, I don't have a problem with
> >them. They can be ok, and sometimes they can be a nice surprise when a
> >new trick shows up.
> > Let's not get into any sort of condemnation of anything, this sport has
> >lots of room for all types of hides, enjoy the game.
> > 
> >Strider
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >
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> >
> 
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