Mummy Cache? Cindy J. Spurr Freelance Writer (757) 432-1423 Web site: www.creativeace.com Alt email: cindys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ---- From: Dan C <dcrep_gc@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 6:38:45 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Was Walmart Now Flying Toads I just wanted to echo Stephen's comment. As one of the finders of the Mummy in 2007 (Stephen was another), I'd happily walk right by a lamp-post to get an interesting cache such as that one. Not all new cachers are interested in numbers... some quite the opposite. -Dan (dcrep) > > Well said Mike. I am not into the numbers at all. I love puzzles like Mummy > and tricky caches like Need Gas. I relish a 2 or even one cache day if I had > to sweat or think to get it. It is all about what the individual is into. > Keep making your caches like you do, 32 finds is an indication of a cache > that requires some work. Kudos you! > > Stephen > > On Tuesday, January 08, 2008, at 03:03PM, "Michael Griffin" > <mike.griffin@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >I think we miss the point of the caches. It is not so some guy in a > >wheelchair can't play, it is asking permission which is the basis of any > >cache. It clearly states that permission MUST BE OBTAINED PRIOR to > >placing any cache. If it is a hassle to get permission, we shouldn't > >place one with the Oh Well attitude. We should do the homework and make > >sure we obtain permission. > > > >However, I totally agree that SLAGA is not the enforcing agency on > >caches. We are a social club and should not condemn or support any kind > >of hides. Everything is personal preference. I don't like light poles > >and guardrails, but I do them :-) I don't like McDonalds or Wal-Mart > >caches no matter how they are placed, but I do them! :-) > > > >However, I don't like the fact that I could go to Jail because someone > >was too lazy to ask permission before placing a cache. I recently, as > >did HappyKraut, replaced all my permission forms for all caches at Busch > >and Weldon Spring. During that process, it became very clear that all > >the properties John Vogel manages do not have legal caches on them. He > >knows this and has let us slide. How long before he decides enough is > >enough and prohibits caching on all his managed lands. Permits are > >helpful in the fact that it is a 2 way agreement. I would feel much > >better doing a cache on private property where the owner has placed on > >the cache page his permission from statement. > > > >I will do caches that I don't necessary like because I too am a numbers > >hound. I am NOT afraid to say I love numbers. Although I haven't logged > >several of the caches I have done in the past 6 months, I like to watch > >my numbers. > > > >Ok, Last topic since this is about Geocaching and not food. Larry and > >myself were talking about how the numbers have killed the muticaches and > >puzzles. I use to make a puzzle cache run for 1 or 2 caches. Now, unless > >I go alone, no one wants to do 1 or 2. Everyone wants to do 60 or 100 or > >500 in a weekend. Only if someone has solved a puzzle down to the final > >will someone do a difficult puzzle. > > > >Case and Point was the Mummy Cache. In 2 years, I had 32 finds. Here is > >what is amazing - From Sept - Dec in 2005 I had 20 finders, in all of > >2006 I had 6 finders and in 2007 until archived late October, I had 6 > >finders. > > > >With the number of new cachers out there, most are getting their > >training from the old timers that are teaching them it is all about > >numbers. Stats, Light poles and Guardrails are the result of numbers. > >Remember, I said I was a numbers hound, no hypocrisy, just observations. > > > >Ok - I am really done. I am headed out here in Boston and going to grab > >a few Guardrails and Light poles. > > > >Mike Griffin > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > >From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >[mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JimSGreene@xxxxxxx > >Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:11 PM > >To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Walmart light pole > > > > > >In a message dated 1/8/2008 12:28:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, > >junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > > I think a good service SLAGA could provide is to have people who > >can > > tactfully contact cache placers who place problematic caches. > >They could > > work with them to fix the problem. I suspect that would be > >better than some > > of us less tactful people pointing out the problem in a cache > >log. > > > > > >Jim, > > I disagree with this statement, any problematic caches should be > >reported to the local approver for them to handle. They are paid big > >money to handle that sort of thing. > > As far as lamp post or easy caches, they serve a purpose too, they are > >great for those with mobility issues, and people looking for some quick > >finds. If placed according to guidelines, I don't have a problem with > >them. They can be ok, and sometimes they can be a nice surprise when a > >new trick shows up. > > Let's not get into any sort of condemnation of anything, this sport has > >lots of room for all types of hides, enjoy the game. > > > >Strider > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > >Start the year off right. 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