[GeoStL] Re: Was "KSDK feature - Don who?" Now Vending Machine Abuse
- From: Jack Anderson <pandyandy3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:50:50 -0700 (PDT)
Yes, Sr. Design Engineer. "Ed-u-ca-tid locally with just an Ass-o-ciate° and
then the rest has been "On the Job Training" :-o)
"Gale R. Nie" <showme69@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Are you an engineer Jack, possibly educated at Rolla? ;-)
Gale
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Anderson
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:32 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Was "KSDK feature - Don who?" Now Vending Machine Abuse
The best one that I ever heard of was the Engineering student at Rolla years
ago. Their class had one of the 236 electric cigarette machines and they
opened it up to pick an area to redesign it better. This kid found where the
vend solenoid (they used solenoids back then) was and measured exactly where to
put a hole in the back of the machine to trigger it with a wire. Then he went
to his dorm building that had the same type of machine and drilled his hole.
He would get 1 or sometimes 2 packs a day. The route man could not figure out
how he was loosing about a carton a week in product. They even replaced the
machine, took it back to the shop to check it out and of course it worked fine
so they put it back on a different floor. He then found the new location of
his special machine and went at it again. It went on for almost the full
school year until they finally caught on, then they pulled all the machines out
of the dorm. The kid was not greedy, he only needed to
support his habit. They never caught him.
Edwin Biesemeyer <singer1ed@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Yeah, I had one account in
Kirkwood several years ago that every week when I got there the coils on about
three of the trays were popped loose and the product about half the way back on
each tray was gone. It took me about a month to find out the problem. Some
one had drilled three holes just big enough to get a wire with a hook on it in
the top of the machine right behind the edge of the top body panel where I
couldn't see them just standing there with the machine open.
I got there early one day because I ran my route backwards to change it up a
little. I must have almost walked in on the culprit(s). Some one left a wire
sticking in one of the holes. I put three small carriage screws in the holes
and took the wire to the manager's office before taking it with me to my office.
Jack Anderson <pandyandy3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The extension glass kit for the 140's to get more space between trays and
glass for the product to drop was the first thing that I did for them back in
1977, before that the product used to vend and just lean against the glass and
stop.
Ah, they were dependable machines back then ;-), but the new ones now have
Sure Vend.
It's an electronic sensing program that assures a customer of getting their
product. If it does not see a product drop then you can try again for the same
product or a different one, then again a third time, then get your money back.
That way if there is just one empty space you can get the next one, or if you
push the wrong buttons you can try again, then if nothing else get your money
back and insert it again. With that system there is a lot less damages done to
machines like when people used to get ripped off and they took it out on the
machine. I myself have kicked and shook many vending machines.
We also have to learn how to steal from them so we can try to prevent it from
happening. But the thief's are so inventive now.
Edwin Biesemeyer <singer1ed@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
When I quit over 3½ years ago, some of the 140 series models and some of the
430's were still being used. at one of the companies I had worked for. In a
sense I preferred them over some of the newer stuff.
Jack Anderson <pandyandy3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: You did vending for a
living. You probably used some of the machines that I helped to design from
National Vendors.
PS: Hope they worked OK.
Edwin Biesemeyer <singer1ed@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I've got a couple of friends here in St. Louis that Geocache but do not log
their finds on GC.com.
Also, when I did vending for a living, I ran the machines at KSDK for a
while. I don't recall seeing this guy named Jack while I was there but then I
never got to go to certain areas. I do know from experience though that KSDK
many times uses their own people to do stories partly because of the "Glory
Suckers" that are in the general public. I was asked on a couple of occasions
to be interviewed for different stories but turned them down because of no
interest in the subjects. Many times they use their own people or their
friends and family members on stories like cover stories where the subject has
to be contacted several times over a certain length of time.
-Edwin
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