locationless are only suspended for awhile, I think till April. Jeremy is revamping the site and some changes are on the way for locationless. Supposed to improve them. I think one of the changes is seperating them, like Benchmarks are. Many of us have been wanting that for awhile. If they start seperating them, I might do some. Some of them sound fun, but they aren't caches to me, so I won't do them till they are seperated from cache finds. The thing with virtuals, is that while most of them are really good, the Admins are inundated with a lot of lame ones. People will make anything a cache. And they are having to be more selective. Jen I Believe.... http://kidbrothers.net/audio/ib-others.mp3 (Hokus Pick and Rich Mullins)