[GeoSTL] Re: This is a long reply to barramus about ISDN

  • From: Glenn Nash <GLNash@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:41:20 -0500

See,, that's easy, you too can get access to high speed Geocaching trinkets
and  watch Barramus wander with his gps in 7 easy paragraphs. :)

Sounds like a big ole hassle too.

Glenn

https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=GLNash%40SWBell.net&item_name=St.+Lou
is+Area+Geocachers+Assoc.


-----Original Message-----
From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Paul Konopacki
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:23 PM
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [GeoSTL] This is a long reply to barramus about ISDN

GPS
geocache
trinket
barramus
Wander

Ok .....

First, SWB has to be able to physically get ISDN to the house.  They
actually
use the same copper wire as analog, but put signal conditioners on it.
They'll
want to put their own ISDN switch in the nearest phone switch box to the
house.  The distance limit is something like 18,000 ft. between them.

If you CAN get ISDN, there are three main things you have to do:
SIGN A CONTRACT WITH SWB
BUY AN ISDN MODEM
GET AN ISDN INTERNET ACCOUNT

You can buy one 64K channel or two 64K channels from SWB.   It cost us about
$100/mo for two channels when we lived in Chesterfield, but now that we are
in
the 'sticks', it costs us $140/mo (supposedly they needed to add a 'signal
booster'!).  These monthly prices are not consistent across the U.S.  I'm
pretty sure the mid-west is getting gouged.

When I first signed up, SWB required a 2-year contract with a steep
cancellation fee.  After the 2-years, we only have a month-to-month
obligation.

I paid about $300 two years ago for an external Courier I-modem.  It was one
of
about 3  good brand choices in the middle price range.  If you have two 64K
ISDN channels, you'll want a modem that can bind them together when
connected
(getting a total of 128K bandwidth).   Because of the affordability and
popularity of broadband (DSL and cable), you can get cheat ISDN modems now
on
eBay.

For internet access using ISDN, you'll have to get an ISDN account with an
ISP.  Not all ISPs offer ISDN accounts, since they need to have an ISDN
modem
on their end to dial into.  My ISP is ww.networkusa.net (aka ValueNet) and
for
barebones internet provision (PPP dial-up), it costs only $20/mo.  This
gives
me 100 hours/mo and 1 e-mail address. Many other ISPs will charge $40 or
more,
but might give you web space and more e-mail addresses.  For a static IP
address, ISPs will charge well over $100/mo.  It's an option if you want to
host a web server through the ISDN modem, but that is less cost effective
than
just paying an ISP to host the site themselves.

ISDN is a clean, digital line and SWB guarantees bandwidth in their lines
(not
guarantee bandwidth to the internet, which is where the issue usually is.)
Each channel gets it's own phone number that can be dialed just like any
other
phone number.  Since I have two channels, I can surf with 128K at my
disposal,
but if an analog call happens to come in on one of the channels, my internet
connect will step down to 64K while the other channel is being used.  Just
takes a little bit of tweaking of the modem configuration to allow that.


Barramus wrote:

> Hey Paul, what's your speed using ISDN ?
> And how much is it ?
> I have a client who can't get DSL.
> SWB recommended ISDN instead, imagine that.
>
> Barramus
> N   38° 25.081'
> W 90° 42.823'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn Nash" <GLNash@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:00 PM
> Subject: [GeoSTL] Re: GPS tracking and SouthWestern Bell
>
> : I would be thing about two-way satellite communications. It can't be
more
> : than the ISDN line, maybe,
> :
> : Glenn
> :  www.GeoStl.com
> :
> :
> :
> : -----Original Message-----
> : From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> : [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Paul Konopacki
> : Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:02 PM
> : To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> : Subject: [GeoSTL] GPS tracking and SouthWestern Bell
> :
> : I happened to be talking to a SWB tech today.
> : (He was complaining about his employer quite
> : a bit.)  He said that his truck was fitted with a
> : GPS tracking device and managers at SWB
> : can see if he's exceeded the speed limit while
> : driving or question him as to why he drove a
> : specific route.
> :
> : His problem was that the company said the
> : trucks were fitted for his 'protection'. He said
> : they spent a lot of money on the technology,
> : but didn't know how to analyze the results.
> :
> : He was also hot about them spending so much
> : money on the GPS tracking and yet, because
> : the testing unit he had was on the fritz, his
> : boss would have to scam one from another
> : manager.
> :
> : He said that because of the economic
> : slowdown, SWB has wrapped themselves in
> : the American flag and use the Sept. 11th
> : incident to explain why DSL / fiber laying
> : initiatives have dropped dramatically.  So,
> : I can't expect DSL in the Eureka area soon.
> :
> :
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