[GeoStL] Re: St Peters geocaching policy update

  • From: "Brad Myers" <bmyers88@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 20:04:33 -0500

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I think educating the alderman may go along ways with getting approval. I 
would hope that this is just a misunderstanding by governmental officials 
who are just overly concerned (and rightfully so) about liability. I'm 
wanting to approach my own Village Board about placing cache in city parks, 
so I will be watching closely to see how this plays out.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Binder" <cpbinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: St Peters geocaching policy update


> -
> In my humble opinion, I think that contacting our alderman MAY make a
> difference. There is a reason why we have a democratic government, am I
> right?
>
> ~Chris
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 10:43 AM
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: St Peters geocaching policy update
>
>
>> -
>> >
>> > Susan, it was decided that to allow geocaching on city property we will
>> need
>> >
>> > a Certificate of Insurance and issue a permit to the organization or
> user.
>> >
>> > With this information, I would recommend that you remove the caches on
> St.
>> >
>> > Peters property. I look forward to discussing this activity with you
> again
>> >
>> > when the insurance requirements can be met.
>> >
>>
>> This is just a way of saying, no thanks! They know we will never come up
>> with insurance. To expect us to cover every cacher who may or may not be 
>> a
>> member of SLAGA is ludicrous. If they get the cache info from Navicache,
>> Geocaching.com or Whatever, they can look for this cache without any
>> coverage from SLAGA. The guy is uneducated and thinks we own caching in
>> Missouri. If someone comes in from Detroit and goes caching, we are
> suppose
>> to cover them?? Say goodbye to St. Peters caches.. I don't think St.
> Peters
>> has enough cachers to make a difference. You can write your Alderman or
>> whatever, but 7 or so households will not make even a dent in the 
>> interest
>> level of anyone.
>>
>> Good luck, but if we don't all, residents and non residents, get involved
> in
>> this, caching in St. Peters parks will be a thing of the past!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> > Still, the main point to me is that I pay taxes and my hobby is far
> safer
>> > than a lot of what goes on in the parks, but we're being singled out
>> because
>> > geocaching is new and takes some effort to understand.
>>
>> Taxes would be the wrong approach. It makes it sound like people have a
>> right to do whatever they want in the parks because they are tax payers.
>> Again, I just don't think they want caching in their precious parks. So 
>> Be
>> It! If someone knows someone who can help this cause, then great,
> otherwise,
>> cache on!
>>
>> >
>> > This might sound bad, but I would also discourage anyone who is not a 
>> > SP
>> > resident from contacting the city.  SP gets pretty darn defensive
> against
>> > "outsiders" and it just wouldn't be helpful at this point.
>> >
>>
>> Maybe this is why I don't live there. I met with St. Peters parks on some
>> scouting issues once and walked away feeling like a foreigner. We wanted
> to
>> use some of their parks for an event and they wouldn't allow it. They 
>> were
>> asked if we could use the rec plex for Scout activities, mainly swimming
> and
>> lifesaving, and they refused. This was after we proposed several upgrades
> to
>> their parks with Eagle scout projects. This was a while back but the 
>> scout
>> leaders who lived there we really turned off by their responses. I don't
>> know why I would expect anything different.
>>
>>
>> > Anyway, guys, I've done about all I can do for now.  I forget who I've
>> told,
>> > but I'm taking a class this fall for the first time in 20 years.  It's 
>> > a
>> > very demanding class and also very important to the future of my 
>> > career.
>> So
>> > my meeting with any alderman is going to have to wait for quite a 
>> > while.
>> If
>> > anyone wants to pick up the crusade and run with it, that would be
>> > wonderful,  but I just don't have the mental energy or time to deal 
>> > with
>> it
>> > now.
>>
>> Thanks for trying Susan! All we can do is try!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
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