- I think educating the alderman may go along ways with getting approval. I would hope that this is just a misunderstanding by governmental officials who are just overly concerned (and rightfully so) about liability. I'm wanting to approach my own Village Board about placing cache in city parks, so I will be watching closely to see how this plays out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Binder" <cpbinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: St Peters geocaching policy update > - > In my humble opinion, I think that contacting our alderman MAY make a > difference. There is a reason why we have a democratic government, am I > right? > > ~Chris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 10:43 AM > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: St Peters geocaching policy update > > >> - >> > >> > Susan, it was decided that to allow geocaching on city property we will >> need >> > >> > a Certificate of Insurance and issue a permit to the organization or > user. >> > >> > With this information, I would recommend that you remove the caches on > St. >> > >> > Peters property. I look forward to discussing this activity with you > again >> > >> > when the insurance requirements can be met. >> > >> >> This is just a way of saying, no thanks! They know we will never come up >> with insurance. To expect us to cover every cacher who may or may not be >> a >> member of SLAGA is ludicrous. If they get the cache info from Navicache, >> Geocaching.com or Whatever, they can look for this cache without any >> coverage from SLAGA. The guy is uneducated and thinks we own caching in >> Missouri. If someone comes in from Detroit and goes caching, we are > suppose >> to cover them?? Say goodbye to St. Peters caches.. I don't think St. > Peters >> has enough cachers to make a difference. You can write your Alderman or >> whatever, but 7 or so households will not make even a dent in the >> interest >> level of anyone. >> >> Good luck, but if we don't all, residents and non residents, get involved > in >> this, caching in St. Peters parks will be a thing of the past! >> >> Mike >> >> >> > Still, the main point to me is that I pay taxes and my hobby is far > safer >> > than a lot of what goes on in the parks, but we're being singled out >> because >> > geocaching is new and takes some effort to understand. >> >> Taxes would be the wrong approach. It makes it sound like people have a >> right to do whatever they want in the parks because they are tax payers. >> Again, I just don't think they want caching in their precious parks. So >> Be >> It! If someone knows someone who can help this cause, then great, > otherwise, >> cache on! >> >> > >> > This might sound bad, but I would also discourage anyone who is not a >> > SP >> > resident from contacting the city. SP gets pretty darn defensive > against >> > "outsiders" and it just wouldn't be helpful at this point. >> > >> >> Maybe this is why I don't live there. I met with St. Peters parks on some >> scouting issues once and walked away feeling like a foreigner. We wanted > to >> use some of their parks for an event and they wouldn't allow it. They >> were >> asked if we could use the rec plex for Scout activities, mainly swimming > and >> lifesaving, and they refused. This was after we proposed several upgrades > to >> their parks with Eagle scout projects. This was a while back but the >> scout >> leaders who lived there we really turned off by their responses. I don't >> know why I would expect anything different. >> >> >> > Anyway, guys, I've done about all I can do for now. I forget who I've >> told, >> > but I'm taking a class this fall for the first time in 20 years. It's >> > a >> > very demanding class and also very important to the future of my >> > career. >> So >> > my meeting with any alderman is going to have to wait for quite a >> > while. >> If >> > anyone wants to pick up the crusade and run with it, that would be >> > wonderful, but I just don't have the mental energy or time to deal >> > with >> it >> > now. >> >> Thanks for trying Susan! All we can do is try! >> >> Mike >> >> >> **************************************** >> Our WebPage! 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