[GeoStL] Re: St. Louis County Park Closures

  • From: Susan Ring <susanmring@xxxxxxx>
  • To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:10:47 -0500

Thanks for the youtube link, Mike.  I need to check out this show :-)

Anyway, my opinions about the why of the situation aren't productive.  I just 
hope that plenty of St Louis County folks will speak up. 

A "Friends of the Parks" group is a great idea, even if they find a way to keep 
more parks open.  Maybe it could start with a coalition of all the various 
groups that use the parks heavily:  geocachers, StL Kayaking group, 
trailrunners, boaters (George Winter park), swimmers (a couple of pools are 
closing, too) etc.  The "Friends" concept works well for the Zoo, Botanical 
Garden, St Charles Library District and many more public institutions.  Leads 
to cool fundraising events, too :-)


On Nov 2, 2011, at 8:55 AM, mike griffin wrote:

> Susan, on Fox last night they had Charlie explaining that they needed to cut 
> operating costs and the best way to do that with the least impact was the 
> park system. Of course Walter Crawford was on too giving his point of view 
> about how important the parks are to not only the people who attend but the 
> wildlife as well. The operating costs of 1 park is very high. They are 
> considering cutting jobs along with park closings. However, if we can offset 
> operating costs of the parks, not all but just the ones that are more 
> popular, maybe that would keep a few on the list alive. Just thinking out 
> load here..
> I know they can look deeper at other ways to cut, but logically, if they can 
> save jobs by closing parks, I don't think there's an argument. At a point 
> like this, you have to ask, "What would Ron Swanson do?"
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhDHui1BZYA
> Mike
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Susan Ring <susanmring@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> At our new park (Lakeside 370) they just started charging a small fee (for 
> nonresidents) for fishing or putting in a boat, with the money going toward 
> park maintenance.  I asked the folks at the ranger station how it was going 
> and they said great.  So apparently folks don't seem to mind the small fee 
> for selected park services.
> About the park closings....
> I'm not sure that the intention is actually to find the money to keep the 
> parks open.  I don't live in St. Louis County so I don't have a say, but 
> those of you who do and who care about these parks  might want to take a look 
> at this article.
> http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/article_44a771df-b9ed-507e-8b49-7bf8ec381d85.html
> I'm trying super hard not to touch on any kind of politics here on the list, 
> but it's curious to me that the only items in the whole budget he could find  
> to cut are parks and snow removal.
> I can only speak for myself, but if I lived in the County I would be giving 
> the appropriate folks in government an earful real quick.
> Susan
> On Nov 2, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Maggie Madonia wrote:
>> I am not sure why they just don't consider charging a nominal fee especially 
>> for Lone Elk and George Winter.  Who wouldn't pay .50 to go to Lone Elk or 
>> launch a jet ski at George Winter.   (or to fish at Suson Park, maybe a 
>> yearly pass for a few bucks) I would versus losing these parks.
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Dan Baldenweck <harp8n@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> St. Louis County is proposing closing some parks because of a budgetary 
>> shortfall.  The list includes some of the biggies:  West Tyson, 
>> Greensfelder, Lone Elk, Simpson...and many more.  
>> Here's a map:
>> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&vpsrc=6&ctz=300&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=211388461394182029991.0004b0b1e3d928ccdeb1d&t=m&ll=38.659778,-90.43396&spn=0.53618,0.75531&z=10&source=embed

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