John, I will have to agree with you on this topic. The more work you put in on a cache for the enjoyment of others should be placed as Premium Member Only caches. Take care and have a nice day, Lonnie... From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mr. EX-President Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 9:52 AM To: Geocaching Newsgroup Subject: [GeoStL] Premium Members Only I am thinking seriously about making all of my future cache hides premium member only hides. Immature people, with smart phones, are going on Geocaching.com, making an account, and going out and stealing cache containers. It happened to us in Festus, and I read that a 2001 cache, in Kansas City, had been stolen for the third time this year, even after they moved it over 80 feet from the previous spot. I put a lot of time and effort making my unique cache containers, and someone went out and stole the Lock-n-Lock out of one of them at Cliff Cave. Brawny Bear had his Mega Trifecta Challenge Cache stolen before anyone had qualified to find it. I believe that anyone who puts out the money for a premium membership, is serious about this game. I have a better chance of my cache staying intact longer when it is a premium member only cache than a regular hide. Comments? John