- All I can tell you about is my experience, but I am paperless and all in one unit now. I've got a Palm m515 with a Magellan Companion GPSr that snaps onto the back of the Palm Pilot. The GPSr came with full US maps on 4 CDROMs, so I can load full-color road maps onto the Palm and have turn-by-turn directions displayed as I drive. (I also got a windshield mount and cigarette lighter adapter for it, so I can have it on all the time when I'm on a trip. The lighter also re-charges the Palm batteries, so I don't have to take a charger with me when I travel.) The CDs came with two software programs for the Palm. The first is the full-color map utility. I can store several maps at one time on the Palm. A 50 mile by 50 mile block of St. Louis takes up 4,619 K of memory. But, that includes all street addresses to within half a block, all the stores, eating establishments, airports, bars, and tourist attractions. The map also zooms out if I'm doing 70-something on the interstate, and zooms in if I'm doing 15 mph in my neighborhood. I can also load point-by-point directional maps, and it gives me audible beeps to alert me to upcoming turns. I can set the beeps to occur 10-60 seconds ahead of the turn. These maps take up much less room than my wide-are StL map - directions from here to Rochester, Minnesota took up 114K of memory. My only beef is that if the maps are loaded to the SD memory card, they refresh so slowly that I'm off the page before the maps appear. The maps MUST be held in main memory to be useful, but they can be stored on the card (so if I'm in California, I'll move the St. Louis map to the card). The second program for the Palm is much more like a basic GPS unit. I can set waypoints, enter destinations in DD MM.MMM format, and get a "plot" screen showing distance and direction to the cache. Accuracy is within 3.3 meters, and there's a utility to see how many birds I've got a lock on and how strong the signal is. The last program I've got on here is called Cachemate. It was $6 on-line, and it coverts GPX files from Geocache.com into the Cachemate database. I have the 500 caches closest to my house, and 500 locationless caches sent to me every Friday. I convert them on the PC and load them to the Palm. But, it gives me the descriptions, the coordinates, the last 5 logs, the hints, and a page on each cache to record my own log notes. The best feature, IMHO, is one where you can re-sort the entire list based on distance from either a cache or from your current location if you are plugged into the GPS. We placed two caches this weekend, and I used this feature in the park to verify that the closest cache was 0.3 miles away. I can't speak highly enough of this program. I tried using the iSilo from geocaching.com and found it very difficult to use. I've since deleted it from the Palm and just use the Cachemate program. Between Cachemate and the GPS-supplied software, I'm paperless and have everything in one unit. If Cachemate had the ability to show a plot of current position vs. the cache, with distance and bearing, it would be perfection incarnate. But, being able to sort caches based on current position is pretty darn cool too. Just my thoughts. I realize the Palm PC vs Palm Pilot camp is about as divided as Mac vs PC or Irish Protestant vs Irish Catholic, but this is what fills my needs. Palm m515s can be found on ebay or half.com for as low as $150. The GPS unit can also be found on ebay for $80-$100 or less. That puts a complete paperless system with color maps in your mailbox for around $250. merkin4 _________________________________ SISNA...more service, less money. http://www.sisna.com/exclusive/ **************************************************************************** Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html **************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list: send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field