[GeoStL] Re: NPS RE: Dan's 50th??

  • From: "Chris Binder" <cpbinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:22:47 -0500

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If they were to throw away the caches, after you spend money on them,
wouldn't you want them to either replace the cache or at least pay you to
make another one?

~Chris


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Bensman" <jbensman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:45 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: NPS RE: Dan's 50th??


> -
> My last message answered your questions except money.  You cannot sue the
> Government for monetary damages for something like this.  You sue to make
> them comply with the law and Constitution.  However, if you win the
> government normally has to pay your expenses and attorney fees (Equal
Access
> to Justice Act).
>
> Technically there might be a cause of action for money under the Civil
> Rights Act.  You may be able to sue for money arguing the NPS violated
your
> First Amendment Rights under the color of the law.  But I am not sure and
> this is not even under consideration.  It is used for stuff like the St.
> Louis cops did to the biotech protestors a few weeks ago.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Chris Binder
> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:53 PM
> > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: NPS RE: Dan's 50th??
> >
> >
> > -
> > Actually, there's nothing to lose, if he loses, we still couldn't
geocache
> > in areas that we can't presently. I say go for it if he refuses contact.
> > However, I'd "telemarket" until you can get through directly to
> > him through
> > the phone. If you feel this is going nowhere, and suing isn't
> > going to help,
> > back off so we all can geocache. (used as a verb) Just curious, what
would
> > you sue for? Money? Fame? Geocaching on NPS lands?
> >
> > ~Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "SSG Dru C Reeves" <dru.reeves@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:27 AM
> > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: NPS RE: Dan's 50th??
> >
> >
> > > -
> > > That's it! Sue, sue, sue!!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sunday, June 22, 2003, at 10:47 PM, Jim Bensman wrote:
> > >
> > > > -
> > > > Funny how you mentioned the problem with the National Park Service.
> > > > Just
> > > > today I wrote the Superintendent of the Ozark National Scenic
Riverway
> > > > who
> > > > still has not answered my November 19, 2002, letter on their
> > refusal to
> > > > allow geocaching anywhere.  It is getting really irritating that
they
> > > > are
> > > > not allowing this and letting other recreational uses that
> > are actually
> > > > causing problems.  I told them if they don't answer my letter
> > and start
> > > > complying with the laws and Constitution, I was going to sue them.
> > > > And I
> > > > will.  They have me mad enough to do it.  There is a $150 filing fee
> > > > and I
> > > > am 7-0 in lawsuits I filed against the U.S. Government without an
> > > > attorney.
> > > > So stay tuned.
> >
> >
> >
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