[GeoStL] Re: NGR - Maybe we can all chip in and get this?

  • From: "Dru C Reeves" <drur@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:05:08 -0600

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Jim

Go see a psychiatrist. I am sure they will be able to help you. 

END OF DISCUSSION!!

Dru

-----Original Message-----
From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Bensman
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 9:52 AM
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: NGR - Maybe we can all chip in and get this?

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Believer,

I (and others) have argued that the kind of posts you have been making
should not be allowed (and it is my understanding they are not allowed)
because this list is about having fun geocaching and we should not discuss
things that get people upset and fighting.  In my previous message I also
pointed out that my message did not belong on this list either. Nor does
this one.  But if you and others are going to be allowed to start these
disunions, I will continue to respond.  Not allowing these kinds of divisive
discussions is not censorship.  Only allowing one side would be censorship.
Murdering sick kids protesting the Navy poisoning them would be censorship.

As to the merits of your supposedly "Christian" views (I was always taught
God provided no exceptions to "Thou Shall Not Kill"):

The first thing the Navy and Air Force did wrong was dump toxic waste in the
first place.  The second thing they did wrong was not clean it up when they
left.  The third thing they did wrong was not clean it up when it became
obvious it was killing kids.  One would think if we can spend billions to
get rid of phantom Weapons of Mass Destruction, we can get rid of the
Weapons of Mass Destruction that are actually killing kids in our old bases.
If the military had acted in a moral fashion, kids would not be dying from
the toxic waste, and Greenpeace and the kids would not have been protesting
the Navy's immoral behavior, and the confrontation with the Navy ship would
never have happened.

As to the comment about the attack on the USS Cole that occurred AFTER the
Navy threatened to shoot sick kids protesting the Navy's immoral behavior:
Lets see the Navy allows terrorist to get close enough to blow up the USS
Cole.  But in this case, you have Greenpeace and kids dying from the toxic
waste the Navy refuses to clean up protesting the Navy and the Navy cannot
differentiate between dying kids and terrorists?  If they were terrorist,
would not they have done their deeds the first time they got by the ship?
The Navy threatened to shoot sick and dying kids after the first group of
sick kids buzzed the ship.  Even "military intelligence" should have been
able to figure out they were not terrorists.  Since this occurred BEFORE the
USS Cole and new security measures, this was obviously about the Navy trying
to censor protest of kids they are murdering.  It was not about the safety
of the Navy ship.

I cannot think of anything better for those kids than allowing them to buzz
the Navy ship in a raft.  They were sick and dying from the Navy's toxic
waste.  What better medicine than letting them buzz a symbol of the immoral
Navy that is murdering them via toxic waste?  I agree with, "In my book
wherever Crizel is is the home of the brave, not the residence of those who
would
threaten sick kids in an inflatable."

I would also point out the tactics you support (murdering sick kids
protesting the Navy's immoral behavior) is what causes people to hate us so
much and breeds terrorists.

I had two uncles give their life in the fight to free the Philippines and
other places.  They did not give their life so the Navy could kill innocent
kids with toxic waste.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Eric & Dayna East
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 8:02 PM
> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: NGR - Maybe we can all chip in and get this?
>
>
> Jim,
>
> The comments were made in fun & not as a slap in your face.
>  I don't understand why you always seem to get so up tight & try
> to censor everyone else's
> speech while all the while advancing your own agenda. I
> personally am not offended by or
> intimidated by your views, in fact, I welcome them & would never
> try to have you censored.
>
> However, your insinuation that the military was somehow in the
> wrong for threatening to
> "shoot" at the zodiac is just ludicrous. The captain of the green
> peace ship should know
> better than try to get that close to a Navy ship, especially when
> he had such a precious cargo
> on board! In my opinion he acted very irresponsibly! In all
> probability they meant they would
> use fire hoses to "shoot" at the zodiac, but even if they meant
> guns, so what! Have you ever
> hear of the USS Cole?!
>
> I would like to correct you on something though. The green peace
> ship in question was not the
> Rainbow Warrior, it was the Sirius.
>
>  God bless!
>
> Eric
>
>
>


 
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