[GeoStL] Re: NGR: Is it really getting warmer?
- From: markwillis@xxxxxxxxxx
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:29:49 -0000
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There was a time when the oceans did rise cataclysmically to cover
most, if not all land masses=2E One family was able to escape in their
Ford Exepdition=2E=2E=2Eactually it was an ocean-going vessel aptly named
'The Ark'=2E The moral of the story, float your assets and be prepared
by getting precertified for ark entry, a roll of duct tape and some
extra food wouldn't hurt either (per FEMA)=2E
As for the EFFECTS of global warming, you could give a sandwich to a
neighbor, or give a charitable contribution to those who are feeding
the victims of Rita & Katrina=2E=20
Before you blast me, I am downsizing my personal fleet to lessen
fossil fuel emissions=2E My air conditioning bills are getting
outrageous as the globe continues to blister toward oblivion=2E=20
These opinions are not necessarily the opinons of SLAGA or
geocaching=2Ecom, nor do they reflect the management or personnel
philosophies of each entity or organization=2E Thank you=2E
Mark
---- Original Message ----
From: susanmring@charter=2Enet
To: geocaching@freelists=2Eorg
Subject: RE: [GeoStL] Re: NGR: Is it really getting warmer=3F
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:26:39 -0500
>-
>Thanks Mike, Keith and Jim for starting and joining in this
>discussion=2E
>
>I actually do agree that we don't know what is causing global
>warming=2E But
>it is real=2E From everything I read, and I do read a lot about this,
>the
>data supports the statement that the earth is getting warmer=2E I'm
>not sure
>that it's even important right now to know the cause=2E What is very
>important is that we start thinking about how we are going to deal
>with the
>EFFECTS=2E
>
>Is every hurricane season for the next 30 years (the common length of
>an
>active tropical period) going to be like 2005=3F Then we better start
>figuring out how we are going to deal with 3 to 5 major hurricanes
>making
>landfall every year in the US=2E Will the breadbasket turn into the
>dust
>bowl=3F Where will we grow crops=3F Will Europe lose the moderating
>effect of
>warmer oceans off its shores=3F What if the sea level rises 10 feet
>over the
>next 50 years=3F No region on earth is immune to the now unpredictable
>shifts
>in weather patterns that may occur=2E
>
>The more time people spend arguing about the causes, the less time we
>have
>to figure out how to survive the EFFECTS=2E I was a little encouraged
>(and
>yet scared) to read an article that said that the Pentagon now
>considers
>global warming at the top of problems facing the US and apparently
>has
>assigned a special task force to study it and make plans=2E
>
>Thanks for reading my humble 2 cents,
>Susan
>
>A frivolous PS: Does anyone else feel old when you remember that
>typewriters used to have a key for the "cents" symbol=3F Have I
>mentioned
>that before=3F Maybe I AM old=2E
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:geocaching-bounce@freelists=2Eorg]On Behalf Of
>know=5Ffuture@juno=2Ecom
>Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:56 AM
>To: geocaching@freelists=2Eorg
>Subject: [GeoStL] Re: NGR: Is it really getting warmer=3F
>
>
>-
>Morning all,
>I think the evidence is pretty conclusive that we are witnessing a
>global
>warming trend=2E The big question in my mind is whether we can, or
>should, try
>to make an effort to reverse it=2E Geologic evidence indicates that on
>several
>occasions in the distant past St=2E Louis was covered by oceans and had
>a
>tropical climate=2E We also find skeletons of mastadons and other ice
>age
>plants and animals=2E This happened when the oceans receded (the water
>being
>stored in massive continental ice sheets) and earth entered one of
>many
>global ice ages=2E
>Indeed there have been numerous global warming and cooling cycles
>during
>earth's history=2E Each cycle lasts for tens of thousands of years, so
>we have
>not yet witnessed a complete cycle=2E The thing to keep in mind is that
>our
>climate is cyclical, therefore it is always changing, never static=2E
>The
>earth's climate has been quite cool, by geologic standards, since the
>beginning of recorded history=2E That it's becoming warmer should not
>be
>surprising=2E
>Can we do anything about it=3F I think the answer is: we don't know=2E To=
>blame
>ourselves for global warming may be an overreaction=2E We didn't cause
>any of
>the previous warming cycles - they all happened before humans arrived
>on the
>scene=2E Yet something caused them=2E Geologic history suggests that the
>earth
>is inevitably going to enter a global warming cycle=2E We don't know
>when or
>why and most likely, if it is happening now, it's not because of
>anything we
>are doing=2E
>Should we try to do anything about it=3F In my opinion, no=2E Why=3F We
>don't
>understand the mechanics of the global climate cycles=2E Since we don't
>understand the problem, how can we hope to solve it=3F When I was in
>college
>in the 70s, some scientists believed that we were entering a new ice
>age=2E
>There were proposals to pump massive quantities of CO2 into the
>atmosphere
>in an attempt to retain warmth in the atmosphere=2E How things have
>changed in
>just 30 years! Personally I think that our ability to alter a global
>phenomenon that has been occurring for billions of years is about
>nil=2E
>On the other hand, saving fossils fuels, reducing emissions of
>poisonous
>chemicals, gases, etc=2E is a worthwhile effort for many obvious health
>reasons=2E To say that this will also have an effect on global climate
>trends
>just doesn't jive with the historical record, in my mind=2E
>Thanks for considering my opinion (if you did, that is )=2E
>Know Future (BS Geology, 1976)
>-- "Mike Griffin" <griff@griffweb=2Ecom> wrote:
>-
>http://www=2Ejunkscience=2Ecom/
>Mike
>
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>Here's your solution=2E=2E
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>
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