- Well, we also have one other party to add to the folks making a bunch of money. If I recall, I saw a breakdown of who gets how much per gallon of fuel, and I thought the governments got as much if not more than the Exxon / Mobil's etc. If we started reducing consumption, they would have to find something else to tax, and it is tougher to put a huge tax on something up front than to have the patience to incrementally increase the tax quietly behind the scenes and blame it on the oil companies after the price reaches the pain point. Hey, that is one instance where the liberal programs and big business get together to each get their piece of you pocket. What strange bedfellows! BotFee wrote: - -----Original Message----- From: know_future@xxxxxxxx[1] [mailto:know_future@xxxxxxxx[2]]=20 Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 08:56 - Morning all, I think the evidence is pretty conclusive that we are=20 witnessing a global warming trend. The big question in my=20 mind is whether we can, or should, try to make an effort to=20 reverse it.=20 To think we canreverse it is absolutely ludicrous. To think we aren't contributing to it,even if only in some small way, strikes me as = equally ridiculous. And while we can't possibly hope to save every little Snail Darter and Spotted Owl on the planet, we can't keep treating it like our own = personal ashtray either. If we all dropped just one crumb on the dining room = floor at dinnerevery night and never vacuumed/mopped that floor, there would certainlycome a time when that dining room would become a pretty unappealing place to partake of our bountiful feasts. How anyone could = fail to see thatas a microcosm of what we're doing to the earth in general = just bogglesmy mind. Increasing fuel economy in automotive vehicles for the purpose of = achieving a reduction in greenhouse gases is a matter of secondary importance, = IMO. We *HAVE TO* do it anyway....if only(?) for homeland security purposes. Unless/until we reduce our dependence on fossil fuels, we will be = forever forced into mucking around in Middle East politics......a truly = masochistic undertaking if there ever was one. Iraq is a perfect example. *IF* we were not so dependent on the import = of oil from that part of the world, we could have closed up shop and left = that shithole the very moment it became clear the 'intelligence' (dare we = call it that) suggesting Sadam was amassing large quantities of WMD was bogus. Unfortunately, we are pretty much stuck there until some semblance of stability is restored..........simply because continued instability in = thatregion can only lead to potentially severe interruptions in oil production.....which can only lead to higher prices at the pump. All of whichmeans the continued loss of American lives for the foreseeable = future.And one doesn't have to believe in big oil company conspiracies to see= how that benefits Mobil/Exxon/whoever. All the major American oil companies = are making money hand over fist right now......earnings are WAY up. And = they're certainly not offering their oil on the futures markets forless than = the (*highly* manipulated) 'open market' prices. The sad part of all this is.......I have virtually no confidence either = one of our majorpolitical parties will lead us out of this mess. The = friggin' Democrats are clueless and have no answer. The equally moronic = Republicans have one answer........'Duhh, like.......drill Alaska, man'. Thanks guys.......I'm so glad we're paying your version of 'Social Security' = for such insightful visions. -=3D Russ =3D- (BotFee) **************************************** Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com[3]Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching[4] Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html[5] **************************************** To unsubscribe from this list: send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[6] with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field --- Links --- 1 mailto:know_future@xxxxxxxx 2 mailto:know_future@xxxxxxxx 3 Http://WWW.GeoStL.com 4 //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching 5 //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html 6 mailto:geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************** Our WebPage! Http://WWW.GeoStL.com Mail List Info. //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Mail List FAQ's: //www.freelists.org/help/questions.html **************************************** To unsubscribe from this list: send an email to geocaching-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field