Well that's what the class is all about. It provides you with the knowledge of the do's and don'ts, rights and non-rights of the "carry" laws. Not everyone knows this and will increase your IQ and your ability to make rational decisions on the spot. You already have the right to carry a loaded gun, the law just requires you to take the class before they issue you a permit to do so. And yes, you have to take a proficiency test, using two different hand guns, (yours or the instructors) and you must hit the target a certain number of times. The class I took expanded you knowledge to protecting yourself in your home and how to deal with intruders. If you have no concern with protecting your life or your loved ones - the class is not for you. BBD1 From: joelk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [GeoStL] Re: NGR: Conceal and CarryDate: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:21:38 -0500 No IQ test? No common sense quiz? No measurement of how impulsive you might be? Just 8 hours and you can carry around a loaded gun? Is there even a test to prove that you can come close to hitting a target!? From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob TheCacherSent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:15 AMTo: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [GeoStL] Re: NGR: Conceal and Carry I got my CCW permit at Top Gun Shooting Sports at HW55 and Imperial/Main streets in Imperial. They have classes there just about every Saturday and you can "qualify" right there during the class. You don't even need to have your own gun. Classes are $125 for the 8 hour session. All paperwork and permit forms will be given to you at that time. Call 636-464-4867 to find out the class schedule and reserve a seat in their class room.BBD1 From: sydstyr@xxxxxxxxxxxx: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [GeoStL] Re: NGR: Conceal and CarryDate: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:05:15 -0500 Hubby did his through Florissant Valley Community College with the shooting done at the ..Berkeley? shooting range. He liked the class but decided that based on the shooting ability of the people in the class that the more people who "Qualify" for concealed carry , the more people will NEED concealed carry. He got his CCL before St. Louis County worked out all their kinks and his is issued from Florida. Figures. Nancy Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! Get 'em! _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us