Pntball took the girls on the kids course and he said they were pretty hard also and that some of them had a lot of sticker bushes around them. I didn't go because of the hills so I'm not for sure. Maybe they were geared to the older kids and not the little ones. Life is way to short to take serious. --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.