thats a shame.especially if any of the caches had peoples travel bugs in them Bob TheCacher <cachefinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } I drove down Marshall Road in Valley Park yesterday on the way home. What I saw was the aftermath of a lot of Meramec River destruction. I checked on 2 of my caches - Bucket Cache and Obey the Sign. They both were about 4-6 feet under water at some time, obviously washed away, and in route to New Orleans. Does this mean I need to make them into a "Traveling Cache"? Any other cache in the vicinity is suspect to being washed away too. Any one having a cache in the Valley Park area needs to see if it survived, but I doubt if it did. Caches in or around the Meramec and Telegraph Road area are also questionable, at best. I picked up Father's Day 2 before the flood, but suspect the original Father's Day cache is also a "Traveling Cache" now too. Bob Pratt, BBD1 --------------------------------- Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. Stupid people make average people look smart! Damn I must be a genius.