Jim, STOP Picking on the bees :P ....they are easy to get around once you know they are there. Before going in to find the cache stop and watch for a little bit and you will see where they are going in and out. Just stay away from the hole and they usually leave you alone. Dang things hurt though I remember from my surveying days Dan --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Jim Greene <jimsgreene@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Jim Greene <jimsgreene@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [GeoStL] Love to Cache in Love Park To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 8:16 PM I love to cache, everybody know that, but bee very careful if you do "Love to Cache" in Love Park. While Sarah, Blue & I were looking for the cache, I got into some ground bees near the cache and got stung about 30 times. I guess I'm not allergic to them, I'm doing ok. I think they were about 10' inside the tree line, but I'm not going back to take measurements. And we never did find the cache either. I hope the bees weren't the bugs that JC Geo dropped into the cache yesterday. Jim